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Re:Saving 4M Books from Landfill – Internet Archive Blogs by JKCalhoun on Friday March 10, 2023 @11:01PM (#35105149)
I share the same obsession as archive.org.

There were library books that for one reason or another made an impression on me as a kid. Sadly of course those old books have been rotated out of the system.

Books that replaced them didn't impress me. (Though perhaps as I have aged I am less impressionable?)

There were some great science and chemistry books for kids when I was young — to be replaced with "grossology" books.

I liked the books that showed future automobiles, spacecraft but I understand why those are dated. I'm not sure I have seen anything that has the same sense of optimism to replace them though.

Or maybe I just prefer the early space-art illustration and concept art in those books done by artists wielding gouache long before CG made everything look bland and lifeless.

In any event I tracked many of these books down on eBay and purchased them. (So often "DISCARD" stamped inside the front cover, a library card pocket inside the back cover.)

Because I am worried that I am becoming a hoarder I was inclined to instead scan many of the books I had collected and then return the original to the sea of used books.

I have uploaded to archive.org everything I scanned.

And I am happy to have in fact also found many other cool books there that I had assumed were going to be lost to time (thinking now about "The Boy Mechanic" bookstore example).

Re:Saving 4M Books from Landfill – Internet Archive Blogs by pengaru on Saturday March 11, 2023 @12:03AM (#35105551)
Kudos for your efforts to preserve and upload your picks to archive.org.

It's such a bummer that public libraries won't have these physical objects on shelves in a discoverable form and place, where people can just stumble upon and page through them.

I've picked through a couple public library "removed from circulation sales" and always find at least one gem there's no obvious good cause for removal. It's hard to not become a hoarder in such situations.

Already brought two such finds home: Bombs Over Bikini [0] and Alaska Crude [1]. They're tiny, and dense with historically relevant photographs. It seems strange to remove them, I suspect it's partly because their contents are dark/depressing/embarrassing to the nation in hindsight. But that's arguably their value IMHO.

[0] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18354016-bombs-over-biki...

[1] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25135337-alaska-crude

Re:Saving 4M Books from Landfill – Internet Archive Blogs by fock on Saturday March 11, 2023 @02:55AM (#35106388)
the public library around my childhood town just put them on a shelf. They had fun 1950s radio equipment manuals (and a Landau-Lifshitz iirc!) but those were gone when I last stopped by.
Re:Saving 4M Books from Landfill – Internet Archive Blogs by pbronez on Saturday March 11, 2023 @07:32AM (#35107767)
Librarians are very thoughtful about what gets shelf space. They curate their collections with many different factors in mind. They refer to this process as “collection development”.

https://www.librarieslearn.org/self-paced-courses/collection...

Re:Saving 4M Books from Landfill – Internet Archive Blogs by Amezarak on Sunday March 12, 2023 @07:22AM (#35118835)
Whatever the ideal is, the reality is that everything old is pulped to make room for the latest political fare and romance novels, especially if it’s not been checked out lately. An ideological criterion is applied on top of this.

God only knows how many works have been consigned to permanent oblivion because they were only of local or niche interest, when even notorious classical works that were read for a thousand years are no longer available in many library systems without ILL. (And sometimes not even then.)

Modern libraries are for entertainment, not education, with few exceptions.

Aside: do not donate books to the library unless you do not care what happens to them. If the library cannot sell them they will be pulped. They are almost never added to collections.

Aside2: for some reason rescuing library books from dumpsters is considered theft by some librarians, so be careful.

Re:Saving 4M Books from Landfill – Internet Archive Blogs by pengaru on Sunday March 12, 2023 @06:15PM (#35127001)
Librarians are biased like everyone else, it's reflected in the books retained.

It's quite apparent when I've explored libraries in small towns on cross-country road-trips. Ideological influence for sure.

Re:Saving 4M Books from Landfill – Internet Archive Blogs by raybb on Saturday March 11, 2023 @03:21AM (#35106510)
OpenLibrary.org (run by IA) is always looking for volunteers, especially on the tech side. They have so much work to do and are trying to make lots of improvements to the site. One thing I'd really like them to do that I think they're also pretty keen on is better integrate with wikidata to pull info about authors or book reviews and such.
Re:Saving 4M Books from Landfill – Internet Archive Blogs by RobotToaster on Saturday March 11, 2023 @04:41AM (#35106887)
>I'm not sure I have seen anything that has the same sense of optimism to replace them though.

That's the basis of hauntology, that optimism for the future has gone, and we are "haunted" by promised futures lost.

Re:Saving 4M Books from Landfill – Internet Archive Blogs by justinclift on Saturday March 11, 2023 @06:42AM (#35107459)
> I have uploaded to archive.org everything I scanned.

Oh, that's kind of awesome. :)

Is the stuff you uploaded in some easy to find list?

Asking because a friend was recently looking for one of the sci-fi art books he had as a child, and we've been looking through Amazon (various countries), Ebay, etc.

Still haven't been able to nail down exactly who the author was, etc. "He'll know it when he sees it" :)

Re:Saving 4M Books from Landfill – Internet Archive Blogs by JKCalhoun on Saturday March 11, 2023 @12:18PM (#35110396)
Ask him to describe it. I have not scanned any space-art specific books but also enjoyed those when I was young. I may know of it?
Re:Saving 4M Books from Landfill – Internet Archive Blogs by grugagag on Saturday March 11, 2023 @12:42PM (#35110661)
Can you share some of gems you scanned? Is it possible to print out once on the archive? Thanks
Re:Saving 4M Books from Landfill – Internet Archive Blogs by JKCalhoun on Saturday March 11, 2023 @09:36PM (#35115825)
Looking at my uploads now, the majority are "Things of Science" booklets from a monthly science kit I was lucky to have received for one year when I was younger.

Here's a space-related scan of mine: https://archive.org/details/orbiting-stations/mode/2up