KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov 1985 Interview – Idealogical Subversion

Re:KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov 1985 Interview – Idealogical S... by anonymousiam on Friday March 10, 2023 @01:29PM (#35098761)

Even worse, the US is about to ban TikTok. At first I thought they were only going to ban it for government and contractor devices, but it seems now that it will be banned for everyone. I don't use TikTok and probably never will, but how is this bill even constitutionally legal? I understand the concerns about data collection, but the USG seems more concerned about WHO is doing the collecting rather than the collecting itself. If the concern is about the propagation of "disinformation", Amendment I of the US Constitution prohibits this sort of censoring. During WWII, allied troops in the South Pacific listened to "Tokyo Rose" with no interference from the USG. That was back in the day when US citizens did not need to be told what to think by their government.

The Soviet Union had a strict censorship regime that the west referred to as "The Iron Curtain." China has "The Great Firewall" now. What will the world soon be calling ours?

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/7/23629469/restrict-act-byte...

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Re:KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov 1985 Interview – Idealogical S... by booleandilemma on Friday March 10, 2023 @01:36PM (#35098859)

I vote for Freedom Fence.

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Re:KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov 1985 Interview – Idealogical S... by throwuwu on Friday March 10, 2023 @02:51PM (#35099920)

The Democracy Drape

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Re:KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov 1985 Interview – Idealogical S... by ok_dad on Friday March 10, 2023 @02:31PM (#35099595)

> the US is about to ban TikTok

There are a LOT more steps to making a bill a law[0] than this, so “about to” is pretty disingenuous.

[0]: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Otbml6WIQPo

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Re:KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov 1985 Interview – Idealogical S... by anonymousiam on Friday March 10, 2023 @02:44PM (#35099819)

It's on the way to Biden's desk, and he has said that he will sign it.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/08/tech/biden-tiktok-bill/index....

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Re:KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov 1985 Interview – Idealogical S... by cscurmudgeon on Friday March 10, 2023 @04:04PM (#35101039)

> A dozen US senators unveiled legislation on Tuesday called the Restricting the Emergence of Security Threats that Risk Information and Communications Technology (RESTRICT) Act. The bill does not target TikTok specifically for a ban.

The bill does not target TikTok specifically for a ban. I don't see the problem.

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Re:KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov 1985 Interview – Idealogical S... by anonymousiam on Saturday March 11, 2023 @03:12PM (#35112167)

It was written with TikTok in mind. It could be applied to Telegram just as well.

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Re:KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov 1985 Interview – Idealogical S... by cscurmudgeon on Friday March 10, 2023 @04:04PM (#35101026)

1. The US hasn't banned TikTok yet. A lot of steps are there.

2. TikTok has CCP board members. So comparing it US companies is not fair.

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Re:KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov 1985 Interview – Idealogical S... by anonymousiam on Saturday March 11, 2023 @03:16PM (#35112221)

Take my word for it, I am no fan of the CCP. That said, if you research the matter, you'll find that every major Chinese (PRC) company has CCP board members. Should they all be banned? It's not possible to prosper in the corrupt PRC business environment without CCP connections. Jack Ma's recent experience should be a lesson for all.

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