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Re:Update to Kagi Search Pricing by ksec on Thursday March 09, 2023 @04:06AM (#35079510)
Sorry I don’t understand this POV.

We know Kagi is losing money on that pricing. ( They have stated it multiple times ). They offer options to donate for those willing to help and chip in.

They now updated the pricing model. They gave you extra 300 on top of their current pricing. The extra 600 search will only cost you $9 more, slightly more than what you tipped them.

So what is wrong ?

And you are supporting their browser development. I mean I understand people want unlimited, but then you are already tipping them. So something must be missing here I am not getting it.

Re:Update to Kagi Search Pricing by palata on Thursday March 09, 2023 @04:41AM (#35079707)
How do you see they give extra?

With the old pricing, it's unlimited searches for 10$ a month. With the new pricing, you're now limited to 1000 for this price.

Re:Update to Kagi Search Pricing by akvadrako on Thursday March 09, 2023 @06:49AM (#35080348)
They are giving extra when you factor in the donations. The old pricing was losing money.

The top poster doesn't seem to think the monthly fees should even cover the costs to kagi, which is absurd.

Re:Update to Kagi Search Pricing by shepherdjerred on Thursday March 09, 2023 @01:12PM (#35084555)
> The top poster doesn't seem to think the price should even cover Kagi's costs, which is absurd.

No, they definitely should cover their costs. They're a business.

But, the cost they're charging is too much. I don't care how much it costs you to perform a search, I care how much it costs me.

Re:Update to Kagi Search Pricing by five82 on Thursday March 09, 2023 @03:19PM (#35086106)
They have every right to cover their costs but I don't appreciate the bait and switch. It seems like a desperation move since I don't see how they can sustain and grow their user base at these price points.
Re:Update to Kagi Search Pricing by shepherdjerred on Thursday March 09, 2023 @01:08PM (#35084509)
You're right that the cost is more or less the same. The problem is that they burned a lot of goodwill.

> The extra 600 search will only cost you $9 more, slightly more than what you tipped them.

I _chose_ to pay more not because I value search at that price, but rather because I liked Kagi and wanted to support them. I'm not going to be forced to pay $20/mo (or whatever it ends up being) for search.

> And you are supporting their browser development.

I tried their browser. I didn't like it.

Re:Update to Kagi Search Pricing by five82 on Thursday March 09, 2023 @03:02PM (#35085898)
It's a 150% price increase if you don't want metered search. I probably would have been ok with a reasonable price increase, maybe 25% to 50%. But it's a lot to ask of your users when most of us have to manage a number of subscriptions and almost all of them have had price increases over the past year.
Re:Update to Kagi Search Pricing by rurp on Thursday March 09, 2023 @06:50PM (#35088557)
Just speaking for myself, I don't care about their browser or "AI" features. Paying more for search to subsidize those projects is a turn off for me.