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Re:Georgia nuclear plant begins splitting atoms for first time by giantg2 on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @03:21PM (#35060636)
'By comparison, solar and wind seem like classic "worse is better."'

If we look at a long enough timeline, there really shouldn't be much change. The replacement of coal and gas plants would be with much cheaper renewable but also with higher cost nuclear. The average should land near the old price. What we observe is that the renewables have a head start compared to nuclear adoption so it seems like prices are higher because our minds are only remembering the recent price drops compared to the true legacy prices.

Re:Georgia nuclear plant begins splitting atoms for first time by audunw on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @03:44PM (#35060930)
Or the cost of renewables + energy storage + smarter flexible loads will just become lower than nuclear all-in-all.

Seems to me that, now that both transportation and grid management is pouring bucketloads of money into energy storage technology, they'll just continue to improve and come down.

I mean, just as some countries are hitting 50%+ of renewables, and the variability is becoming a significant challenge, we're also starting to see a lot of EVs entering the market. I've got a car charging in my garage right now that my electricity provider can start and stop charging based on electricity prices. I can easily delay charging for 2-3 days if need be.

Seems to me that everything is coming together for a fully renewable solution. And this is probably what smaller island nations and such will want to standardize on anyway. It'll be the default for most areas.

Not that I mind nuclear.. just not sure where it'll fit in in the future. Just used in some key industrial areas maybe?

Re:Georgia nuclear plant begins splitting atoms for first time by Gwypaas on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @04:24PM (#35061470)
> Not that I mind nuclear.. just not sure where it'll fit in in the future. Just used in some key industrial areas maybe?

Nuclear submarines, and that is about it.

Re:Georgia nuclear plant begins splitting atoms for first time by coryrc on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @05:19PM (#35062069)
Process heat for industrial use?

Desalinization?

Re:Georgia nuclear plant begins splitting atoms for first time by Gwypaas on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @05:35PM (#35062271)
Compared to heat pumps and renewables? I see it as very unlikely.
Re:Georgia nuclear plant begins splitting atoms for first time by coryrc on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @12:02AM (#35065465)
Heat pumps aren't great above 80°C more-or-less.
Re:Georgia nuclear plant begins splitting atoms for first time by Gwypaas on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @04:13AM (#35066868)
Just naïvely I would think that you used multi stage heat-pumps with different heat transfer fluids? Unless the process heat is thousands of degrees, but then we are already using inefficient methods like arc furnaces.
Re:Georgia nuclear plant begins splitting atoms for first time by giantg2 on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @03:49PM (#35061009)
"Or the cost of renewables + energy storage + smarter flexible loads will just become lower than nuclear all-in-all."

May even in a generation or two. I doubt I'll see it in my lifetime though.

Re:Georgia nuclear plant begins splitting atoms for first time by ianburrell on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @07:38PM (#35063590)
The small modular reactors could be useful for isolated places where it is hard to run power cables and renewables are not feasible. Solar doesn't work close to the poles. Places that are now powered by importing diesel.

Reactors might also work for ships. A super reliable small reactor that doesn't require much support personnel might be option for powering cargo ships.

Re:Georgia nuclear plant begins splitting atoms for first time by Ekaros on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @05:40AM (#35067401)
I wonder if population is ready for smarter flexible loads. At least if they start to actually affect them. Like grid telling your home to drop temperature or that hot water is not available at certain time. Or that AC is turned off, due to bad wind conditions...