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Re:Maybe Treating Housing as an Investment Was a Colossal Mi... by svachalek on Monday March 06, 2023 @12:20PM (#35043772)
There's a huge cultural difference there though -- people don't trust stocks, bonds, or bank accounts. Housing is the only investment most people will consider.
Re:Maybe Treating Housing as an Investment Was a Colossal Mi... by hinkley on Monday March 06, 2023 @12:32PM (#35044159)
There are old men who still remember their neighbors being dragged out of those houses, tried, and executed by Mao's kangaroo courts.

Most martial arts schools with ties to China have stories of expatriation or of practicing in the dark in basements.

All those houses bought in Vancouver aren't just about financial investments, they're also a potential bolt-hole if things get ugly again.

Re:Maybe Treating Housing as an Investment Was a Colossal Mi... by btilly on Monday March 06, 2023 @01:02PM (#35044842)
Also those houses are being bought with money being smuggled out of China. For all of the reasons that patio11 gives in https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/money-laundering-and-..., real estate is an excellent investment for money whose provenance you wish to be hard to discover.
Re:Maybe Treating Housing as an Investment Was a Colossal Mi... by redmorphium on Monday March 06, 2023 @01:17PM (#35045118)
This is a negative way to look at China's history.

As a Chinese-American, whose family and friends all profited greatly from China's rise, I do wonder, how much of that profit was just being lucky enough to support the "winning team," and how much blood was shed on the other side.

I guess the only true mindset is a neutral one.

Re:Maybe Treating Housing as an Investment Was a Colossal Mi... by hinkley on Monday March 06, 2023 @03:27PM (#35047096)
We have a model for that in your birth country (American Civil War). But from my fractured knowledge of Chinese history, there's been a lot less backpedaling vis-a-vis the Civil War on ideological differences between the winning and losing side (and we mostly lament those as regression instead of progress).

In China, things have come back. People who escaped were invited back with promises of better treatment, even given platforms (eg, martial arts) but who knows what we Earthlings have lost from people who didn't. Biomechanics, biology, art, technology, philosophy...

Re:Maybe Treating Housing as an Investment Was a Colossal Mi... by ianlevesque on Monday March 06, 2023 @12:26PM (#35043984)
Nor should they, cultural or not. Look how the government destroyed the Ant group recently. When they can unilaterally do that, how can you find a safe stock?
Re:Maybe Treating Housing as an Investment Was a Colossal Mi... by majani on Monday March 06, 2023 @01:19PM (#35045157)
Land in China is all leased from the government, so there's no escaping government risk there without leaving the country
Re:Maybe Treating Housing as an Investment Was a Colossal Mi... by pzone on Monday March 06, 2023 @05:14PM (#35048505)
The Chinese situation is caused by government rather than by their culture. Chinese corporations are forced into inefficient state-mandated investments and provide meager rates of returns for shareholders. They get tons of shiny public infrastructure while savers are given nothing, and are not allowed to invest internationally. In other words, it is pure financial repression.
Re:Maybe Treating Housing as an Investment Was a Colossal Mi... by xboxnolifes on Monday March 06, 2023 @07:24PM (#35049866)
Sounds a lot like the US to me.