Re:Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai
by madrox on Thursday March 02, 2023 @09:11PM
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Hulu is an example of the same model. It was funded by a consortium of industry players, like Comcast, Fox, and Disney. Volkswagen and Ford were doing the same thing. Unlike Hulu, though, it wasn't successful. My guess is they felt leadership was lacking. I'm sure if you zoomed in, you'll notice some of the AV startup execs aren't among the 550.
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Re:Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai
by infairverona on Thursday March 02, 2023 @10:56PM
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Was at Argo and left latitude somewhat recently. You are spot on, most of Argo leadership is gone, most of the autonomy folks got picked up by either VW or Ford Latitude.
Re:Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai
by lostlogin on Friday March 03, 2023 @01:27AM
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I don’t get it. Are you implying that they folded the venture at that cost, the started it again?
I get that HR and leadership are hard, but this seems far fetched.
Re:Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai
by luckylion on Friday March 03, 2023 @02:15AM
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What's the difference in keeping the same 550 people working under the old name with a $2.7bn cost sunk into it, and just acknowledging the $2.7bn as a loss and moving the 550 people to work under a different name.
It's not like the name was a significant part of their product and they'd now have to spend a similar amount to get to a similar stage in their research and development, is it?
Re:Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai
by lostlogin on Friday March 03, 2023 @02:21AM
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Firing them hiring is a long way from free. Then add in the company start up costs and legal fees etc.
Maybe I’m the mug, but that seems wasted money.
When you are burning billions, the costs listed above seem to be treated as a rounding error.
Re:Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai
by snovv_crash on Friday March 03, 2023 @04:19AM
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It means they now have 100% ownership instead of whatever legacy rights were there from their previous investment.
Re:Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai
by xhkkffbf on Friday March 03, 2023 @08:04AM
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It actually could be pretty lucrative. Not only have they gotten VW out of the mix, but they can renegotiate the salaries and stock options again. The market for talent is very, very different now. And all of those old options that the Argo people took during their first n years? They're now worthless so the management doesn't have to share ownership with them either.
This could have been entirely driven by business considerations.