Re:Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs
by tstrimple on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @01:35PM
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Bound to happen, so establish yourself as deeply as possible as quickly as possible. Once folks are hooked up to these APIs, there's a cost and friction to switching. This just feels like a land grab that OpenAI is trying to take advantage of by moving quickly.
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Re:Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs
by jejeyyy77 on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @01:42PM
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Is there though? It's just a matter of swapping out $BASE_API_URL.
Re:Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs
by KRAKRISMOTT on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @01:46PM
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You have to rebuild all your prompts when switching providers.
Re:Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs
by DrBenCarson on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @02:11PM
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If the superlative LLM can’t handle prompts from another provider, it just isn’t the superlative LLM.
This area by definition has no moats. English is not proprietary.
Use case is everything.
Re:Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs
by drusepth on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @02:17PM
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Switching to another LLM isn't always about quality. Being able to host something yourself at a lower or equal quality might be preferred due to cost or other reasons; in this case, there's no assumption that the "new" model will have comparable outputs to another LLM's specific prompt style.
In a lot of cases, you can swap models easier but all the prompt tweaking you did originally will probably need to be done again with the new model's black box.
Host something yourself also for educational reasons, just experimenting, this is how new applications and technologies to be discovered and created.
Do you? They're natural language, right?
Re:Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs
by travisjungroth on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @02:09PM
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You don't have to, but they will have been optimized for one model. It's unlikely they'll work as well on a different model.
Re:Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs
by GalenErso on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @02:10PM
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I can't wait for TolkienAPI, where prompts will have to be written in Quenya.
Re:Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs
by michaelje on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @02:26PM
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I can’t wait to hire Stephen Colbert to write prompts then
Re:Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs
by birracerveza on Thursday March 02, 2023 @03:06AM
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No problem, just ask ChatGPT to translate it in Quenya.
Re:Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs
by hathawsh on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @05:29PM
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I imagine AI would be able to perform the translation. "Given the following prompt, which is optimized for $chatbot1, optimize it for $chatbot2".
Re:Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs
by jejeyyy77 on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @07:41PM
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technically true, but the way these prompts are/can be template-ized it should be relatively trivial to do so.
Re:Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs
by tstrimple on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @03:20PM
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Most of the clients I'm working with aren't interested in the base level of service. They are looking to further train the models for their specific use cases. That's a much higher barrier to switch than replacing an API. You've got to understand how the underlying models are handling and building context. This sort of customer is paying far more than the advertised token rates and are locked in more tightly.
Re:Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs
by jejeyyy77 on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @07:42PM
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not really. fine tuning generally just involves running tailored training data through the model - the actual training algorithm is fairly generalized.
For example, the Dreambooth fine tuning algorithm was originally designed for Google's image, but was quickly applied to Stable Diffusion.
Thee would be less friction to switch if the implementations (which are early enough) accounted for sending requests to multiple service providers including ones that don't exist yet.
OpenAI has a view few do - how broadly this type of product is actually being used. This is possibly the real lead to not just getting ahead, and staying ahead, but seeing ahead.
And also, what people are actually asking it. Are people using it to generate cover letters and resume help, or are they doing analysis of last quarters numbers, or are they getting programming help. That'll help them figure out what areas to focus on for later models, or areas to create specialized models for.