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Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by gjsman-1000 on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @04:39PM (#34975228)
So much for "Open" AI.

Open-source algorithm? No.

Open access for free, or reasonable prices? No.

Open emails and conversations of directors (accountability)? No.

Open conversations of issues and ethics? No.

Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by rnd0 on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @04:41PM (#34975257)
Thank fuck they weren't called "HomelandAI" or "LibertyAI" or somesuch!
Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by all2 on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @05:11PM (#34975644)
I smell a business opportunity. "HomelandAI" sounds rather nationalist.
Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by adishy on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @10:15PM (#34978328)
I see your subliminal "The Boys" reference :)
Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by honkler on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @04:42PM (#34975261)
well atleast now they are Open about their intentions

:)

Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by HDThoreaun on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @05:21PM (#34975762)
Open access for a fee? Yes.

The original point of openAI was to make sure google and facebook don't completely dominate AI and keep their work hidden due to the innovator's dilemma they face. Seems like they've absolutely accomplished that. Yes, they've stretched the meaning of "open" but I don't think they've ever tried to claim they had some sort of open source aspirations.

Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by meghan_rain on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @07:41PM (#34977168)
OpenAI = Microsoft, which you have conveniently left out in your FAANG enumeration
Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by HDThoreaun on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @07:45PM (#34977205)
Because Microsoft was in no way a leader in AI research when openAI was founded. But the important part here isn't keeping AI work from being dominated by big tech. It's to keep it from being hidden from the public by big tech.
Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by meghan_rain on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @08:43PM (#34977694)
Can you elaborate on the last sentence?
Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by HDThoreaun on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @09:12PM (#34977895)
Google and Facebook have long had language models that have been reported to be vastly superior to what was publicly available. The one that a Google engineer claimed was sentient was the most well known example. OpenAI was founded in reaction to these models being hidden away.
Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by adt2bt on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @11:50PM (#34978895)
OpenAI was founded in 2015, well before those models were created.
Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by saurik on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @11:47PM (#34978882)
Which letter is Microsoft again? (I always forget.)
Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by mtlmtlmtlmtl on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @03:20AM (#34979970)
They claimed a lot of things. Open source, non-profit. Then they changed their minds on all of them.

As for open access, that's usually defined as free of charge. E.g open access journals.

Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by rchaud on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @10:26AM (#34983379)
It's sort of like how Uber dropped the pseudo-green 'ride-sharing' language from its marketing as soon as they had enough investor $ and brand recognition to cut out taxis with predatory pricing.
Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by moffkalast on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @05:44PM (#34976003)
Open your wallet? Yes.
Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by code_runner on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @06:14PM (#34976294)
Perhaps they mean that they operate in the open? They publish research, do open unrestricted beta tests etc.

I'm not sure they will necessarily live up to every definition of open you'll ever come up with, but its hardly the worst name in the tech space.

I'm still waiting for apple to deliver that tree to me. Facebook isn't a book AND the faces are almost always the smallest piece of content on a post (and some people's avatar isn't even their face!). Can't wait for my trip to the Amazon w/ Mr Bezos!

Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by sebzim4500 on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @06:14PM (#34976295)
It's supposed to be 'Open' in comparison to Deepmind/Google Brain, not open in comparison to e.g. Linux.
Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by nl on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @07:03PM (#34976771)
> Open-source algorithm? No.

The publish their algorithms just fine and no one has had issues replicating their work.

Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by maleldil on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @06:34AM (#34981198)
Where's the ChatGPT paper?
Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by nl on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @08:10AM (#34981978)
From the ChatGTP announcement: "ChatGTP is a sibling model to Instruct GPT"

The paper for that is linked from https://openai.com/research/instruction-following

Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by maleldil on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @09:31AM (#34982784)
The InstructGPT paper only explains the RLHF part of how ChatGPT works. There's reason to believe that isn't enough to achieve ChatGPT's performance and behaviour (e.g. [1]). There are other components that make ChatGPT more powerful, and OpenAPI is not being open about them.

[1] https://yaofu.notion.site/How-does-GPT-Obtain-its-Ability-Tr...

Re:OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot by nl on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @06:23PM (#34989795)
I don't think that conclusion is clear at all. Indeed your own link has things they thought were unclear struck and and parts of the InstructGPT paper that explains them inserted.

They do have newer models that aren't generally available that are different though.