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Re:Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Ag... by chitowneats on Sunday February 26, 2023 @04:47PM (#34949864)
Unfortunately, you seem fundamentally confused about the position of people who are skeptical of zoonotic origin.

Please explain to me how position A) is more racist than position B)

A) Scientists all over the world, including Chinese, Americans, and others, made a fundamental misjudgement about the safety of the Wuhan virology lab, or perhaps viral experimentation generally, and the result was a global pandemic

Versus

B) Chinese people eating & trading wild and exotic meat unintentionally caused a global pandemic due to their consumption

Of course, neither theory is racist. That's a word that used to mean something (and I wish it still did!), but is mostly used today to shut down debate in Western countries.

Re:Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Ag... by mikeyouse on Sunday February 26, 2023 @05:27PM (#34950285)
I’d rather just leave you to your false dichotomy. Thanks though.
Re:Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Ag... by chitowneats on Sunday February 26, 2023 @07:39PM (#34951527)
What a persuasive comment. How lucky (but ultimately unfortunate) we are that our rhetorical opponents are so goddamn lazy.
Re:Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Ag... by dmix on Sunday February 26, 2023 @10:05PM (#34952445)
It's sad to see OP has been on HN since 2012. I guess he learned nothing from our community in the last 10yrs.
Re:Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Ag... by anon291 on Sunday February 26, 2023 @09:34PM (#34952270)
It is scary to think that educational systems in democracy around the world produce comments like that. The commenter made a good point and your response is simply that you're going to stick with your prior beliefs because what? Part of good rhetoric is entertaining opposing ideas.
Re:Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Ag... by mikeyouse on Monday February 27, 2023 @12:44PM (#34959484)
Refusing to engage with false dichotomies doesn't mean I'm stubbornly sticking with my priors.. if this is your first dip in the "lab leak" vs "zoonotic origin" pool, welcome, because otherwise you'd know how quickly it turns to shit when people pretend like only two scenarios exist. Don't fret, democracy will survive even I don't choose to engage with this particular round of bad faith argument!
Re:Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Ag... by anon291 on Monday February 27, 2023 @02:21PM (#34960707)
There's no dichotomy here. The OC is merely pointing out that one theory (wet market) was widely accepted despite its obvious racism, while another (lab leak) was dismissed as racist despite being less racist than the wet market one. I believe this is a worthy point of discussion.

I mean... for several years, the notion that Chinese people are unsanitary was conisdered not racist, while the notion that extremely smart Chinese bioscientists may have covered up a lab accident was considered Asian hating. That sort of double think is worthy of questioning and criticism.