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Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by mynameisvlad on Saturday February 25, 2023 @01:10PM (#34938903)
So you’d prefer a phone that has no updates, functional or security, to one that is slower? Because that’s the reality for functional updates after less than two years, and security after 3 for this phone. 7 major OS updates is over twice as long.

Ok. Sure Jan. I think the majority will take that slow phone in a heartbeat.

Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by dageshi on Saturday February 25, 2023 @01:14PM (#34938951)
Given androids market share vs iphone... the majority are indeed taking a phone with no updates over a slower phone.

As long as the apps they use work ok I'm not sure the majority cares about updates security or otherwise.

Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by mynameisvlad on Saturday February 25, 2023 @01:18PM (#34939007)
I mean, no. Their market share says nothing about people’s wants and needs on this topic, it just means that on the whole the Android package is more appealing. Which could be for many reasons, of which price is going to be the biggest.

If people could choose a longer period of updates, I don’t really expect any to refuse.

Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by dageshi on Saturday February 25, 2023 @02:19PM (#34939564)
You don't get longer updates without increasing the price. If people did really care about updates outside of HN it would be a marketing feature.
Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by mynameisvlad on Saturday February 25, 2023 @02:21PM (#34939583)
The fact that Android phone releases (like the one we’re commenting on right now) generally announce the supported feature and security updates indicates that it very much is one already, at least on the Android side.
Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by bmacho on Saturday February 25, 2023 @01:11PM (#34938919)
Why not? A phone that has no updates, functional or security still can do a lot of things very well.
Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by mynameisvlad on Saturday February 25, 2023 @01:15PM (#34938977)
It’s also a massive security risk.
Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by flykespice on Saturday February 25, 2023 @01:26PM (#34939093)
How often do you run into security riskd when using your phone everyday?
Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by mynameisvlad on Saturday February 25, 2023 @01:29PM (#34939128)
Considering the increase of putting your entire life into your phone, your phone’s security should honestly be among those you care about the most.

Most people will access all facets of their life on their phone, from social, to financial, to work. If anything, the risk is only going to increase as time goes on.

Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by serf on Saturday February 25, 2023 @02:08PM (#34939460)
Would you know what to count? Most wouldn't.
Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by flykespice on Saturday February 25, 2023 @05:59PM (#34941327)
First is common sense, computer viruses is a so common knowledge thing that scares many people, even my parents who are dummy on technology fears them and avoid suspicous sites and malwares from unknown sources, same thing carries for apps (ie. don't install from second sources)

Second is even if an android version lagging behing on security features from later versions, play store enforce enough harsh policies on app submissions requiring access to external data and collect user data, that you can trust most of it. Sure some apps can slip under their radar but play store bots can eventually catch up to them.

Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by pjmlp on Saturday February 25, 2023 @01:17PM (#34939002)
It is no different from how feature phones and smartphones used to be.

Only rich people care about iPhones, or those that buy everything on credit.

Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by mynameisvlad on Saturday February 25, 2023 @01:21PM (#34939034)
Or, you know, those that want their phones supported for longer than two years.

Minimizing a group of people does nothing but stroke your own ego. There are many reasons to buy an iPhone. There are many reasons to buy an Android. Buying one or the other says nothing about you as a person and implying otherwise is absurd and childish.

We’re not on Reddit; this is supposed to be adults having conversations not preteen fanboys blindly worshipping a mobile OS.

Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by pjmlp on Saturday February 25, 2023 @01:44PM (#34939249)
Who is worshipping iOS here then?
Re:Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone by mynameisvlad on Saturday February 25, 2023 @01:56PM (#34939343)
Nobody. Did you even read the comment you replied to? The one that says there are reasons to buy each OS? Pointing out a clear advantage is not worshipping, it’s just pointing out a clear advantage.

Price is a clear advantage for Android phones. Does that make me an Android worshipper now?