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Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by bigdict on Friday February 24, 2023 @04:58PM (#34930708)
> Free Ingria […] has potential

No, it's a toy movement.

> There's no part of Russia bordering Ukraine that Ukraine could take as a bargaining chip

Transnistria could play precisely that role.

Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by gerikson on Friday February 24, 2023 @05:05PM (#34930797)
Isn't Transnistria legally part of Moldova? Russia can't trade that away against Moldova's wishes, and even if it was to try , it would be against the international law that made the invasion of Ukraine and annexing its territory illegal in the first place.
Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by bigdict on Friday February 24, 2023 @05:59PM (#34931407)
International law is for client states.
Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by notahacker on Friday February 24, 2023 @05:09PM (#34930838)
Don't really see Transnistria as remotely useful as a bargaining chip. Sure it's propped up by Russia and would eventually be integrated into Russia under Putin's wildest imperial fantasies, but it's not Russia, its people mostly aren't Russian and I'm not sure it's all that valuable either.

All a Ukrainian invasion of Transnistria would do is give Putin's claims about Ukrainian aggression some veneer of legitimacy and annoy Moldova, which doesn't want to see something which is constitutionally part of their territory fought over and then bargained back to Russian control...

Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by pydry on Friday February 24, 2023 @05:27PM (#34931037)
>its people mostly aren't Russian

They basically are. They speak Russian and act like Russians. I doubt they'd mind being annexed.

Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by RivieraKid on Friday February 24, 2023 @05:45PM (#34931247)
I've recently read that only about 30% identify as Russians.
Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by bigdict on Friday February 24, 2023 @06:14PM (#34931574)
Yeah, the largest ethnic group. The largest ethnic group in California is Latinos. What's the issue?
Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by RivieraKid on Saturday February 25, 2023 @05:47AM (#34935604)
I think your assumption that people who say they're ethnically non-Russian are basically Russian and would be ok with annexation by Russia is wrong.
Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by bigdict on Saturday February 25, 2023 @09:01AM (#34936735)
What is that thought based on?
Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by ChuckNorris89 on Friday February 24, 2023 @06:06PM (#34931482)
>They basically are.

They don't have russian passorts. How can they be russians?

Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by bigdict on Friday February 24, 2023 @06:09PM (#34931515)
> They don't have russian passorts.

You clearly are not familiar with how things work in Transnistria.

Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by ChuckNorris89 on Friday February 24, 2023 @06:26PM (#34931692)
I'm from around that region so I'm quite familiar.

Just because Putin says those people are Russians so he can claim some clay, doesn't make it a fact.

Sure some are ethnically Russian, but that doesn't make them Russian citizens.

They are Moldovan citizens. Transnistria is a rouge separatist nation that's not internationally recognized and only exists on paper because Russia has troops and weapons there and Moldova is too weak to do anything about it.

Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by bigdict on Friday February 24, 2023 @07:09PM (#34932119)
> I'm from around that region so I'm quite familiar.

Not sufficiently familiar then.

"It is estimated that about 250,000 out of 500,000 people living in Transnistria hold Russian citizenship."

That's as of 2020, "passportization" has continued since then.

https://warsawinstitute.org/russia-hands-passports-diaspora/

Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by ChuckNorris89 on Friday February 24, 2023 @07:25PM (#34932265)
If France were to give french passports to a lot of Germans in a particular region of Germany, that region doesn't magically become a French asset/territory.
Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by bigdict on Friday February 24, 2023 @07:29PM (#34932305)
Transnistria is literally controlled by Russian armed forces…
Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by ChuckNorris89 on Friday February 24, 2023 @07:39PM (#34932391)
Which are there illegally as they occupy the territory of the sovereign nation of Moldova.

Case in point, no other UN nation recognizes Transnistria or Transnistrean passports. Transnistrean citizens travel with Moldovan passports.

Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by bigdict on Friday February 24, 2023 @08:07PM (#34932620)
You are missing the point, it's still an asset under Russian control, whether you like it or not.
Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by mazurnification on Saturday February 25, 2023 @05:09PM (#34940942)
But Transnistria has between 360k - 475k ppl (from Wikipedia). Plus everybody want Romanian passport (which is not that hard to get if you are Moldovan) - due to UE free movement ...
Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by bigdict on Friday February 24, 2023 @07:16PM (#34932183)
All I'm saying is Transnistria is de facto a Russian asset.
Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by LargoLasskhyfv on Saturday February 25, 2023 @03:16AM (#34934889)
Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by anextio on Friday February 24, 2023 @05:05PM (#34930793)
The Russians have shown that they don't care about holding territory in the short term, see Kherson withdrawal, etc. They are only focused on attrition and minimizing their own casualties. If Ukraine goes into Transnistria it will not force Russia to capitulate.
Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by meheleventyone on Friday February 24, 2023 @05:27PM (#34931038)
> “They are only focused on attrition and minimizing their own casualties.”

???

That’s errr... going poorly.

Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by anextio on Friday February 24, 2023 @06:13PM (#34931560)
https://meduza.io/amp/en/news/2023/02/17/close-to-15k-russia...

An investigation via open sources by the BBC and Meduza (an anti-Putin media outlet based in Latvia) has confirmed the deaths of about 15k Russian soldiers since the start of the war, and estimates the true number to be up to 60% higher.

What sources do you have that the widely reported media number of 200k+ is actually true that doesn’t ultimately come from the government of Ukraine (who would have an interest in over-inflating their victories) or by a western government that is militarily supporting Ukraine?

Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by andrewflnr on Friday February 24, 2023 @06:31PM (#34931733)
The sources I'm seeing saying 200k include injuries. Combined with your source on actual deaths, that puts injuries:deaths at around 10:1, which sounds right.
Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by meheleventyone on Friday February 24, 2023 @06:53PM (#34931988)
Yes like I said... err... that’s going poorly.
Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by dragonwriter on Friday February 24, 2023 @07:07PM (#34932094)
> An investigation via open sources by the BBC and Meduza (an anti-Putin media outlet based in Latvia) has confirmed the deaths of about 15k Russian soldiers since the start of the war, and estimates the true number to be up to 60% higher.

Where do you get the estimate of the true number? Your cited source only has the count of the named individuals identified, not anything corresponding to your claimed total KIA estimate. (Also, the investigation was published, as you linked, by Meduza, but conducted by the BBC and Mediazona, not the BBC and Meduza.)

> What sources do you have that the widely reported media number of 200k+ is actually true that doesn’t ultimately come from the government of Ukraine (who would have an interest in over-inflating their victories) or by a western government that is militarily supporting Ukraine?

Who else (besides sources with opposite biases, like official Russian sources – who haven’t provided casualty estimates since September) would have the kind of information necessary to make a meaningful estimate? (Also, the most commonly cited figure, which is sourced to the UK Ministry of Defense, is “up to” 200,000 casualties, with 40,000-60,000 KIA, not 200K+ KIA.)

But even if we go by that confirmed-by-name count as the full count of KIA, it roughly matches the Soviet KIA in Afghanistan, which was instrumental in the collapse of the USSR, so, going quite badly.

Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by kibwen on Friday February 24, 2023 @05:32PM (#34931092)
> They are only focused on attrition and minimizing their own casualties.

The former, yes. The latter, no.

Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by dragonwriter on Friday February 24, 2023 @07:12PM (#34932142)
> If Ukraine goes into Transnistria it will not force Russia to capitulate.

A Ukraine invasion of Moldova would result in Ukraine being forced to capitulate by the sudden collapse of all outside support.

I suppose Ukraine supporting a Moldovan effort to push Russia out of Transnistria might be a thing that could happen without that consequence, but it doesn’t seem like something likely to happen while Ukraine is busy fighting Russia over Ukraine.

Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by dragonwriter on Friday February 24, 2023 @07:09PM (#34932112)
> Transnistria could play precisely that role.

Transnistria isn’t part of Russia and Ukraine isn’t going to take it from Moldova.

Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by bigdict on Friday February 24, 2023 @07:11PM (#34932136)
> Transnistria isn’t part of Russia

It is controlled by Russia.

> Ukraine isn’t going to take it from Moldova.

What is that based on?

Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by dragonwriter on Friday February 24, 2023 @07:14PM (#34932161)
> It is controlled by Russia.

And Ukraine obviously supports the Moldovan government’s opposition to that condition, but Ukraine isn’t going to unilaterally invade Moldova to fight Russians while its got plenty of Russians in Ukraine to deal with.

Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by bigdict on Friday February 24, 2023 @07:22PM (#34932236)
Why are you so certain? Have you heard of the Cobasna ammo depot? It would be mutually beneficial to Ukraine and Moldova if Ukraine were to gain control of that depot and then cede back to Moldova.
Re:One Year into the War in Ukraine by gerikson on Saturday February 25, 2023 @03:50AM (#34935065)
It would be like gaining control over an unstable nuclear reactor.

https://www.arnika.org/en/hotspots/moldova/the-largest-illeg...

Cobasna is a huge problem in waiting but it's not an urgent problem.

The real solution is for Russia (as the Soviet Union's biggest successor state) to handle the cleanup and reparations when the region is handed back to Moldova.