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Re:Tell HN: Do not store any funds in PayPal or use them for... by mattgreenrocks on Thursday February 23, 2023 @02:03PM (#34914865)
If I unlink my bank account, how can I get my money out of PayPal?
Re:Tell HN: Do not store any funds in PayPal or use them for... by jethro_tell on Thursday February 23, 2023 @02:37PM (#34915322)
link to a not main account and only setup one way transfers from one to the other i.e. You have your main account, and you have your paypal receivables account.

Paypal receivables account has no overdraft protection and not overdraft allowance. If a withdrawl over the value of the account comes in, it is denied.

Connect that account to paypal.

Next, in the Paypal receivables account, setup an external transfer from the receivables account to the main account. You will have to validate the ownership of the second account usually by posting two small transactions that were auto posted to the account as part of the validation process. This takes a couple days. Once that is done, you can transfer money from receivables account to main account but not the other way.

Transfer money out of paypal to the receivables account, transfer money from receivables to main. Use a credit card to spend money with paypal.

You can set up two way transfers if you need to put cash into that account for transactions and you still get a similar level or separation, I just prefer to use a CC instead because they'll help you out if you want to dispute or reverse a transaction and paypal may not.

Re:Tell HN: Do not store any funds in PayPal or use them for... by shortcake27 on Thursday February 23, 2023 @02:48PM (#34915480)
> Paypal receivables account has no overdraft protection and not overdraft allowance. If a withdrawl over the value of the account comes in, it is denied.

Note that this may not work everywhere in the world. For example, in Australia, the legacy direct debit system will happily put an account with no overdraft into negative balance.

I’m not sure if the modern replacement (PayTo) has the same behaviour. In any case, legacy direct debits will probably stick around for years.

The best option is to simply avoid PayPal.

Re:Tell HN: Do not store any funds in PayPal or use them for... by Chilko on Thursday February 23, 2023 @03:29PM (#34916044)
Yep, have experienced similar surprise negative balances with Visa debit cards in New Zealand as well.
Re:Tell HN: Do not store any funds in PayPal or use them for... by jethro_tell on Thursday February 23, 2023 @04:24PM (#34916676)
Maybe, but if you were going to pay your rent with the money on Thursday, at least it's not gone.
Re:Tell HN: Do not store any funds in PayPal or use them for... by StanislavPetrov on Thursday February 23, 2023 @10:26PM (#34920393)
>The best option is to simply avoid PayPal.

Unfortunately certain vendors only accept Paypal. For example, I like to watch billiards, and Accu-Stats (one of the largest PPV billiards sites) only accepts Paypal. So, unfortunately, my choice is either to bite the bullet and use Paypal or be prevented from watching the events I'm interested in.

Re:Tell HN: Do not store any funds in PayPal or use them for... by mattgreenrocks on Thursday February 23, 2023 @03:07PM (#34915770)
Thanks!

My bank (BoA) allows me to have multiple checking accounts so long as you satisfy the initial deposit requirement, and maintain sufficient balances in other linked accounts, so this looks like a good way forward. I think I'll switch other apps to use this new receivables account to contain their potential blast radius.

Re:Tell HN: Do not store any funds in PayPal or use them for... by lowercased on Thursday February 23, 2023 @03:38PM (#34916160)
double check your statements now and then - if you don't already. i had a biz acct and my home account, and would get dinged "service charges" on home account if it was below ... $500 for too long. Biz account had 30x that in there - far more than their min requirements, and I was told they were 'linked'. 2x in 3 years, they "got unlinked" and I was getting various $39 service fees on the home account. "Oh, so sorry, here... we linked again - we'll waive the fee"... months later... same thing. Less for you specifically OP and more just a general warning.
Re:Tell HN: Do not store any funds in PayPal or use them for... by jethro_tell on Thursday February 23, 2023 @06:24PM (#34918278)
Heh, I keep having my auto pay disabled on my card and my wife's card, just one day the card doesn't work and the payment has been missed.

It happens every 10-18 months, enough that I assume there is a substantial amount of money being produced by charging a late fee and interest and people not noticing. They never put it back either, have to call and spend a couple hours with them.

My lease favorite bank.

Re:Tell HN: Do not store any funds in PayPal or use them for... by winphone1974 on Thursday February 23, 2023 @05:07PM (#34917282)
This is a good approach in general, having a spending account where you pay anything directly, email transfers, cash withdrawals, etc., And then a true savings account for things like salary direct deposit. The Firewall between them is you making manual transfers. It's like CI/CD with a human approval step before going to GA
Re:Tell HN: Do not store any funds in PayPal or use them for... by neltnerb on Thursday February 23, 2023 @02:33PM (#34915256)
please no one say crypto ;-)

but I definitely have the same question, I always deposit anything sent to me via paypal, venmo, whatever right away so there's zero balance.

good luck telling a bank to un-authorize someone from being able to deposit or remove money from your account though, I had to call them up and they didn't even seem to know how to do it.

somehow it isn't just a checkbox, it seems to me like revoking that permission should be vastly easier than providing it...

Re:Tell HN: Do not store any funds in PayPal or use them for... by thestepafter on Thursday February 23, 2023 @02:32PM (#34915249)
Create a second account with your bank that is only for PayPal withdrawals.
Re:Tell HN: Do not store any funds in PayPal or use them for... by unxdfa on Thursday February 23, 2023 @02:39PM (#34915350)
Spend it.