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Re:Amazon employees push CEO Andy Jassy to drop return-to-of... by turtlebits on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @04:30PM (#34887700)
The complaints are also getting old. If you were hired with the expectation that you go in the office, RTO is an eventual expected outcome.

I do see the psychology of taking away what many see as a "benefit", but it's really just going back to the norm.

Re:Amazon employees push CEO Andy Jassy to drop return-to-of... by x86x87 on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @04:33PM (#34887759)
Hmm... the complaints are getting old? I guess the beatings need to continue until morale improves.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0535/6917/products/traditi...

Hard disagree with "If you were hired with the expectation that you go in the office, RTO is an eventual expected outcome." Ask yourself why do we need to RTO? Who needs the RTO?

Re:Amazon employees push CEO Andy Jassy to drop return-to-of... by eurticket on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @04:45PM (#34887901)
we should all read between the lines, this big push is from those that invest in the office buildings and surrounding businesses chains, and are hurting from lower proximity of consumers.

Stop making your own meals, start consuming from their fast food chain down the block from the building theyre leasing to your company.

Stop for gas and buy from their other investments close by.

Need people to stop being so self sufficient at home, and suck the rich tit.

We are so desperate for the help :( /$

Re:Amazon employees push CEO Andy Jassy to drop return-to-of... by x86x87 on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @05:01PM (#34888185)
i agree that things are shifting. forcing everyone to the old routine that is worse for them, worse for the environment and worse for the tech corporations that are peddling this is insane.

Gas? If we consume less gas that's good right?

Less wear an tear on the cars? Good

Not wasting 1-2 hours commuting? Great

Having a quiet place where you can gather your thoughts and do knowledge work? Amazing

But what about the hard working real estate companies that are going to be impacted by this? What about the small businesses? What about them? Close shop and/or figure out something else that works. Why does everyone have to have a crappier life for you to continue with your crap practices?

Re:Amazon employees push CEO Andy Jassy to drop return-to-of... by rtp4me on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @04:55PM (#34888071)
Don't ask yourself or your neighbor. Ask your company why they want you to RTO.

Who needs the RTO? Apparently, the company does. This is why they are asking people to return...

Re:Amazon employees push CEO Andy Jassy to drop return-to-of... by x86x87 on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @05:02PM (#34888202)
hah. i did ask. I also did ask about the metrics that are used to measure productivity. Do you want to hear what the answer was? crickets!
Re:Amazon employees push CEO Andy Jassy to drop return-to-of... by rtp4me on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @05:06PM (#34888267)
So, I guess at this point you have at least two options:

* Go back to the office as expected

* Look for another job

Which one will you pursue?

Re:Amazon employees push CEO Andy Jassy to drop return-to-of... by x86x87 on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @05:41PM (#34888734)
If I had to make the choice it would be another job. Easy choice.
Re:Amazon employees push CEO Andy Jassy to drop return-to-of... by andrewmunsell on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @04:36PM (#34887796)
Why does it have to be the norm?

We can't just stick to what's been done previously just because it used to be that way. Clearly, for years, workers have been productive remotely. I get some people like being in the office more than WFH, but the "some" is key here and does not align with an RTO mandate

Re:Amazon employees push CEO Andy Jassy to drop return-to-of... by dunefox on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @04:35PM (#34887785)
1. of all the norm for a couple of years is home office

2. it is an objective benefit

3. the norm is what the majority want it to be

Re:Amazon employees push CEO Andy Jassy to drop return-to-of... by rtp4me on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @04:49PM (#34887987)
Agreed. If the expectation was to work from the office when you were hired, you should expect to go back to the office once the pandemic is/was over. Otherwise, why would you take a job in an office if you didn't want to work there (there - as in "in the office")?