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Re:B2B startup will stop innovating the day you give power t... by ttymck on Monday February 20, 2023 @05:37PM (#34873883)
It's possible I've not worked with a good PM, but the fact remains that I haven't seen the industry _incentivize_ the "good PM" behavior you're describing nor have there been consequences for "bad PMs", so does "good" and "bad" really mean anything?
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Re:B2B startup will stop innovating the day you give power t... by kareemm on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @08:21AM (#34880800)
There are lots of companies where talking to customers is a requirement for a PM to have continued employment. I’ve worked for more than a few. Seems to me that’s a pretty significant incentive.
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Re:B2B startup will stop innovating the day you give power t... by ttymck on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @06:09PM (#34889068)
"Talking to customers" is "good PM behavior"? Isn't that like saying "writing code" is "good developer behavior"?
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