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Re:Workers’ Pay Globally Hasn’t Kept Up with Inflation by dontlaugh on Sunday February 19, 2023 @07:29PM (#34863469)
The threat of industrial action is a great motivator for employers. Unionising your workplace makes that threat possible.
Re:Workers’ Pay Globally Hasn’t Kept Up with Inflation by jjtheblunt on Sunday February 19, 2023 @11:15PM (#34864834)
does that work better than jumping to a preferable employer (assuming such is possible)?
Re:Workers’ Pay Globally Hasn’t Kept Up with Inflation by photonbeam on Sunday February 19, 2023 @11:49PM (#34865003)
Yes, it means they cant pick you off one by one, but have to negotiate against a group that has real leverage
Re:Workers’ Pay Globally Hasn’t Kept Up with Inflation by everforward on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:11AM (#34865135)
That assumes everyone has that option. There's likely not enough "preferable employer" jobs for everyone to have one in many sectors.

There's also a divide between tactics efficient at the individual level and that efficient at a national or global level. E.g. you can tell an individual they should be a doctor/lawyer/engineer/etc and that's good advice, but if everyone does it then who grows food and cleans floors and etc?

Re:Workers’ Pay Globally Hasn’t Kept Up with Inflation by ec2y on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:28AM (#34865560)
You obviously don’t have my sucky union. The idiots let our agreement lapse over the pandemic and can’t their act together for a new one. (I’d suspect they were being union busted but I’m in Australia where unions are normal.)
Re:Workers’ Pay Globally Hasn’t Kept Up with Inflation by sudosysgen on Monday February 20, 2023 @03:36AM (#34866265)
There are heavy limitations on union industrial action in Australia that make this sort of thing much more likely to happen. It's a tremendously contrived system and as a result Unions often up very chummy to the employer as elements which may be more amenable to confrontation can get frustrated with the immense complexity and difficulty that brings. Any kind of industrial action used for bargaining is almost impossible to get authorized. I'd say the Australian union system is one of the worst in the world, and most Australian unions are structurally busted.
Re:Workers’ Pay Globally Hasn’t Kept Up with Inflation by missedthecue on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:48AM (#34865678)
This is why truckers (unionised) make a lot of money while software devs (nonunionised) scrape by
Re:Workers’ Pay Globally Hasn’t Kept Up with Inflation by kar5pt on Monday February 20, 2023 @03:28AM (#34866223)
How do you put on pants in the morning?
Re:Workers’ Pay Globally Hasn’t Kept Up with Inflation by missedthecue on Monday February 20, 2023 @10:17PM (#34876029)
My comment was facetious satire illustrating that productivity increases, not cartels, are the key to rising wages.

I'm sorry it was difficult to understand.

Re:Workers’ Pay Globally Hasn’t Kept Up with Inflation by fuzzfactor on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @04:49AM (#34893587)
In a place like SV what percentage of truckers have been laid off compared to software people?

How many are really increasing productivity in the long run anyway?

When you think about it, their own employers must be satisfied with the lower productivity of a smaller staff or they wouldn't be kicking people out.

Edit: Not my downvote. Corrective upvote actually.