IRIS²: The EU’s Response to Musk’s Starlink

Re:IRIS²: The EU’s Response to Musk’s Starlink by wewxjfq on Sunday February 19, 2023 @05:13AM (#34856140)

Europe bashing on HN is so lame. A German start-up developed a working mRNA vaccine the same time an American start-up developed a stupid blood test fraud. You wouldn't hear the end of it if it was the other way round. What big tech came out of the US the past decade? The juicer? If it's about Europe, every quibble is used for sweeping blows, when it's about the US, the failures are all swept under the rug.

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Re:IRIS²: The EU’s Response to Musk’s Starlink by bigDinosaur on Sunday February 19, 2023 @05:28AM (#34856251)

All the recent major advances in generative AI appear to have come from the US. The US is an extremely innovative country, no matter its faults.

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Re:IRIS²: The EU’s Response to Musk’s Starlink by justeleblanc on Sunday February 19, 2023 @05:46AM (#34856371)

Do you know where stable diffusion was developed?

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Re:IRIS²: The EU’s Response to Musk’s Starlink by bigDinosaur on Sunday February 19, 2023 @08:38AM (#34857451)

Fair point, not all, just the hours of ChatGPT got to me. That said I was replying to someone who seemed to think nothing major had come out of the US in ten years and like, well, as mentioned my ChatGPT usage begs to differ.

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Re:IRIS²: The EU’s Response to Musk’s Starlink by justincormack on Sunday February 19, 2023 @05:35AM (#34856299)

Thats not a great comparison given Wirecard.

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Re:IRIS²: The EU’s Response to Musk’s Starlink by hef19898 on Sunday February 19, 2023 @06:32AM (#34856681)

And Wirecard isn't even close to Enron.

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Re:IRIS²: The EU’s Response to Musk’s Starlink by tifadg1 on Sunday February 19, 2023 @05:20AM (#34856186)

Lets think what came out of the US - social media, big data, adtech, EVs, cloud computing, XaaS, machine learning, military advances.

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Re:IRIS²: The EU’s Response to Musk’s Starlink by RobotToaster on Sunday February 19, 2023 @05:25AM (#34856222)

I'm honestly not sure if this is supposed to be pro or anti USA

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Re:IRIS²: The EU’s Response to Musk’s Starlink by inglor_cz on Sunday February 19, 2023 @05:37AM (#34856312)

Depends on whether you are facing a disinformation campaign on a social network or whether you need to crush Russian armor rolling over the border.

Technology is notoriously two-faced. Or zero-faced if you can't produce it. The medieval people didn't have to worry about Facebook memes influencing the clergy and triggering heresies.

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Re:IRIS²: The EU’s Response to Musk’s Starlink by tifadg1 on Sunday February 19, 2023 @09:22AM (#34857764)

Neither, but every one of those impacted all of us.

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Re:IRIS²: The EU’s Response to Musk’s Starlink by inglor_cz on Sunday February 19, 2023 @05:35AM (#34856298)

"A German start-up developed a working mRNA vaccine the same time"

True, but not very relevant. A continent with 25 per cent of humanity's wealth is expected to produce at least something sometimes.

But just look at the brain drains. How many Nobelists or other important scientists moved from the US to Europe and vice versa? We are losing our most talented people to a better research environment.

There is no shortage of European workers in Google or SpaceX, where the main limiting factor is actually ITAR laws, not lack of interest. How many Americans moved to Germany to work in SAP or to France to work in Arianespace?

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