Ask HN: What would it take for an AI to convince us it is conscious?

Re:Ask HN: What would it take for an AI to convince us it is... by dusted on Saturday February 18, 2023 @06:50AM (#34846163)

> AI will eventually present an argument that it should be given Sapient Rights

The fictional character Data already did this in Star Trek: The Next Generation, and he is about as real as any AI out there today, and since they've all been trained on a body of text that is sure to include many instances of Datas dialogue, they're already able to predict such an argument (along with the many other facets of such arguments present in whatever science-fiction writing they've been exposed to)

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Re:Ask HN: What would it take for an AI to convince us it is... by bee_rider on Saturday February 18, 2023 @10:17AM (#34847489)

I think it would not convince many people. The workings of an LLM are sufficiently well understood that most people would see this the replication of these arguments for what it is; not an independent thought.

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Re:Ask HN: What would it take for an AI to convince us it is... by thfuran on Saturday February 18, 2023 @10:58AM (#34847831)

Have you met any people?

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Re:Ask HN: What would it take for an AI to convince us it is... by bee_rider on Saturday February 18, 2023 @11:34AM (#34848190)

Hahaha, fair enough. Usually the logic part of our brains gets cut-off in the direction of maintaining the status quo, though, so I think an AI would actually have to come up super-compelling arguments if it actually wanted to have rights.

I mean we become emotionally attached to everything, so an AI car, or whatever, will probably be treated like a pet. But getting human treatment will probably be a higher bar.

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