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Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by rebeccaskinner on Friday February 17, 2023 @10:46AM (#34835965)
And yet people look at me like I have two heads when I explain that I’m still actively making every effort to avoid getting Covid.

The long term brain damage is going to be a massive impact on companies who are forcing RTO and causing their employees to deal with repeat exposures to Covid from co-workers.

Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by poszlem on Friday February 17, 2023 @11:24AM (#34836657)
It's probable that people are unable to comprehend why someone would willingly undergo the same experiences we have all undergone for the past three years. I used to be firmly in the "I will do everything possible to avoid getting COVID-19" camp. However, I eventually contracted it and endured a challenging two-week sickness. After recovering, I decided that I am no longer willing to halt my life out of fear of catching it again because it is not worthwhile. Unless you have a compromised immune system or significant underlying health conditions, you will probably come to the same conclusion at some point. And then you will be looking at yourself from the past and wondering "what the hell was I thinking". As I do now.
Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by QuantumGood on Friday February 17, 2023 @05:45PM (#34841668)
People always seem to play the "live my life" card, and leave out the "I want people to like me" embarrassment of wearing a mask when others don't. You can mostly live your life while wearing a well-fit N95 mask, taking it off to eat and drink.
Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by dQw4w9WgXcQ on Friday February 17, 2023 @10:56AM (#34836130)
> The long term brain damage is going to be a massive impact

What about the long term brain damage of isolating everyone for years straight, massively strained social connections, eroding mentoring opportunities at work, not allowing babies and children to see faces or socialize, and the overall cognitive load of adapting to a large sector of the population acting like a bunch of anxious cowards over what is largely a cold for 99% of them?

Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by causi on Friday February 17, 2023 @11:06AM (#34836307)
what is largely a cold for 99% of the population

Firstly, as of January, 11% of people infected with covid still have symptoms. I'm one of them. Personally I wish I'd been more paranoid, maybe I'd still be able to drink a coke without wanting to vomit from the taste or fuel my car without the smell of gasoline making me dry heave. Secondly, that value is derived from reality, i.e., a world where people did "act like anxious and nervous pansies". They tried to avoid being infected. They tried to avoid infecting other people, especially vulnerable people. Covid killed a million people in the US. How many would it have killed if we hadn't acted like pansies? How many vulnerable people would have died before we could vaccinate them? How many dangerous variants would have evolved with an infection pool twice as large?

Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by slaw on Friday February 17, 2023 @11:49AM (#34837010)
I wish I'd been more paranoid too. I got side effects from vaccination that I was forced to take and that I didn't need at all because I had covid before.
Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by causi on Friday February 17, 2023 @12:16PM (#34837417)
How is this related to people "acting like pansies" to avoid catching covid?
Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by SamoyedFurFluff on Friday February 17, 2023 @10:59AM (#34836186)
Why are you demanding empathy when you yourself deprive empathy for the people you’re demanding from (calling them “acting like a punch of anxious and feaf pansies”)? This looks like plain hypocrisy.
Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by user8501 on Friday February 17, 2023 @11:05AM (#34836295)
Where did they demand empathy?
Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by SamoyedFurFluff on Friday February 17, 2023 @11:08AM (#34836339)
Asking “what about <all these other people>” is inherently asking you to provide some level of consideration for those people, but calling other people pansies is clearly not embodying the consideration being asked of. I don’t really feel strong about the actual topic being discussed, I just think the hypocrisy is disgusting.
Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by user8501 on Friday February 17, 2023 @11:24AM (#34836660)
I agree that name calling is always unhelpful, but I’m not seeing any hypocrisy in the comment. It seems to be a comment about how there are a plethora of reasons that the population may be experiencing cognitive issues.
Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by SamoyedFurFluff on Friday February 17, 2023 @11:46AM (#34836967)
Commenting that there are alternative experiences that others have inherently asks you to consider the experiences of others. Insulting people inherently does not consider the experiences of the people being insulted.
Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by chaostheory on Friday February 17, 2023 @11:00AM (#34836204)
Just wear an n95 mask. All of that is still possible with masks. They even have clear ones now.

If you don’t want to wear a mask, just do all of that outdoors, or keep an indoor space very well ventilated with fresh air from outdoors

Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by snozolli on Friday February 17, 2023 @11:22AM (#34836614)
What about the long term brain damage of isolating everyone for years straight

Sounds like you need to learn to be more adaptable. I've had no problem meeting with friends to walk outdoors, maintaining friendships throughout the pandemic, all without ever catching COVID.

a large sector of the population acting like a bunch of anxious cowards

Are you a coward for wearing a seatbelt in a car? How about a helmet when riding a motorcycle?

Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by mjr00 on Friday February 17, 2023 @11:33AM (#34836791)
> Sounds like you need to learn to be more adaptable. I've had no problem meeting with friends to walk outdoors, maintaining friendships throughout the pandemic, all without ever catching COVID.

Let this be a lesson: this is what privilege sounds like.

It's very easy to say "just be more adaptable" when your well-paying job is to sit at home, posting on reddit and occasionally resolving a bug ticket. Meanwhile, tens or hundreds of millions of people worldwide who work in hospitality, music/theatre/other live performances, conferences and events, tourism, etc. had their livelihoods absolutely crushed by COVID restrictions. They got government handouts and still barely survived.

But yeah, nobody cares about those people; they don't matter since they're not FAANG employees. They should just adapt and learn how to code red-black trees on a whiteboard to get a job at Meta.

Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by snozolli on Friday February 17, 2023 @04:23PM (#34840762)
this is what privilege sounds like.

Are you suggesting that other people don't have access to the outside, or communication technology?

Aside from very few places, there was never any actual lockdown. Everyone in America had the right to walk in a park with friends while social distancing.

when your well-paying job is to sit at home, posting on reddit and occasionally resolving a bug ticket

That's quite some projection.

nobody cares about those people

I guess that's why I always wear a mask when in an enclosed area...? Why I always respected personal space of workers and always had patience with them, knowing what they're going through.

Yep, I'm just a privileged meanie. Can't possibly be that I behaved like a responsible, caring adult, using methods available to all Americans.

Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by poszlem on Friday February 17, 2023 @11:49AM (#34837004)
The issue with this argument is that it could, just as well, be used to force people to wear bubble wrap instead of clothes to avoid falls. The question is how much we're willing to sacrifice for safety. Fortunately, most people aren't willing to go as far as suggested.
Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by snozolli on Friday February 17, 2023 @04:18PM (#34840704)
The issue with this argument is that it could, just as well, be used to force people to wear bubble wrap instead of clothes

No, it most certainly could not. This is just the slippery slope fallacy.

Incidentally, nobody forced you to wear a mask. You always had other options. You are, however, forced to wear a seatbelt (aside from NH) and, in almost all states, a helmet while on a motorcycle. Other than a few overconfident fools, everyone understands the benefits of these precautions.

Somehow, though, taking reasonable precautions against COVID is tantamount to bubble wrap life. Why? Because it's new and you're so indignant that you can't see you're the wrong side of history.

Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by poszlem on Friday February 17, 2023 @07:44PM (#34842654)
> No, it most certainly could not. This is just the slippery slope fallacy.

It absolutely could. This is just the "slippery slope fallacy fallacy": assuming that all slippery slope arguments are fallacious.

Another mistake you make is assuming that everybody you talk to on this site lives in the US. I can assure you that not only I was "forced" to wear a mask, in many parts of the world people lost their jobs for refusing to do so.

But I see I am talking to someone who not only believes that he is "on the right side of history", but also that the history has "the right side".

I deeply regret to say that I will not modify my way of interacting with others, especially now that we know that the pandemic is over.

I hold a strong conviction that face-to-face communication has been a successful method for thousands of years, and I am not inclined to adopt a technique of uncertain effectiveness and potential unknown consequences, solely due to the influence of a minority of individuals who suffer from health anxiety (and I don't use the word hypochondriasis as a gesture of good will here).

Re:The haunting brain science of long Covid by snozolli on Saturday February 18, 2023 @12:24PM (#34848777)
It absolutely could. This is just the "slippery slope fallacy fallacy": assuming that all slippery slope arguments are fallacious.

Complete nonsense. Reasonable precautions aren't a slippery slope. They never have been and they never will be, yet every time one comes up we get people screaming about it.

Another mistake you make is assuming that everybody you talk to on this site lives in the US. I can assure you that not only I was "forced" to wear a mask, in many parts of the world people lost their jobs for refusing to do so.

The vast majority do live in the US. If you choose to refuse requirements of your job, that's on you.

I am not inclined to adopt a technique of uncertain effectiveness and potential unknown consequences

You're literally afraid of change. You see something that requires adaptation and you recoil in horror, and make up a bunch of nonsense to rationalize your fearful reaction. Grow up.