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Re:Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale... by devmunchies on Thursday February 16, 2023 @02:17PM (#34824197)
theoretically the phone could still record all audio and then sync with the cloud when back online, but I'm grasping at straws here.
Re:Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale... by fsflover on Thursday February 16, 2023 @03:54PM (#34825941)
In such case the solution is to have hardware kill switches, like on my Librem 5.
Re:Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale... by autoexec on Thursday February 16, 2023 @04:10PM (#34826234)
That kind of phone goes so far to protect your privacy it won't even let you use it to call anyone. (https://www.techrepublic.com/article/librem-5-review-the-lin...). The real solution is regulation with lots of teeth and oversight, so we don't have to depend on flawed products that don't work.
Re:Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale... by fsflover on Thursday February 16, 2023 @04:13PM (#34826275)
This is an extremely old review, when the software was in beta. Phone calls are working fine for me now.

Regulations are great, but I prefer to have both kinds of defense.

Re:Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale... by autoexec on Thursday February 16, 2023 @04:21PM (#34826428)
That's a good sign! I'd given up all hope for the Librem and pinephone. I guess it's time to take another look...

I agree that hardware switches are ideal, but I don't see them being common since most of the folks pushing out phones want to use those devices to collect data on the people who buy them.

Re:Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale... by JohnFen on Thursday February 16, 2023 @04:46PM (#34826848)
Why would it, though? If you're the sort who puts your phone into a faraday cage, you're not the sort who will install an app from the stores.
Re:Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale... by devmunchies on Thursday February 16, 2023 @06:24PM (#34828213)
zero day OS-level exploit by some govt? idk.
Re:Forget Milk and Eggs: Supermarkets Are Having a Fire Sale... by JohnFen on Thursday February 16, 2023 @06:36PM (#34828359)
I thought we were talking about retail stores here, not governments.

If your threat model is governmental, then that's a whole different thing entirely. You'll have to go to true extremes to even have a chance at defending against that. For instance, you shouldn't have a cell phone at all.