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Re:American drivers have a blinding headlight problem. It co... by whalesalad on Thursday February 16, 2023 @10:34AM (#34819987)
God bless my state of Michigan: zero inspections, no front license plates. I’ve lived in states with the opposite and it’s oppressive (as an automotive enthusiast)
Re:American drivers have a blinding headlight problem. It co... by ThunderSizzle on Thursday February 16, 2023 @10:38AM (#34820048)
And entirely corrupt and inconsistent. I know people who get the inspections stickers withheld so the shop can try to talk you into paying for maintenance or given out for free to friends.
Re:American drivers have a blinding headlight problem. It co... by dsfyu404ed on Thursday February 16, 2023 @10:41AM (#34820096)
Shops that also run small time (usually BHPH) dealerships are the worst about it due to the obvious conflict of interests.

In my state the emissions and safety inspections are combined under the same license. As recently as the 2010s the 3rd party that the training was contracted out to would straight up tell you in the PowerPoint slides that the state's #1 priority is emissions and that the point of the safety inspection was to make holding the license lucrative to remove incentive to circumvent emissions inspection process (i.e. it's a make-work program).

Re:American drivers have a blinding headlight problem. It co... by johannes1234321 on Thursday February 16, 2023 @10:47AM (#34820178)
That can be solved. In Germany the Organisation doing the test (TÜV, DEKRA, ...) is different from the one doing repairs.

But yeah, that needs proper regulation and oversight.

Re:American drivers have a blinding headlight problem. It co... by ejb999 on Thursday February 16, 2023 @10:54AM (#34820289)
Yep - I have a mechanic I trust - he doesn't do inspections, asked him to check my tires before I brought it in to get inspected and he said they should pass - unless the place I bring it for the inspection, also sells tires.

Its mind boggling to me that the place the does the inspections, is also the same place that can sell you the repairs - repairs that you may or may not actually need.

Re:American drivers have a blinding headlight problem. It co... by mrguyorama on Thursday February 16, 2023 @11:47AM (#34821164)
In my state, shops have a strict 3 strikes policy for ANY inspection related infraction, including charging less than $12.50 (presumably to prevent shops from cutting corners to undercut the competition) and giving out stickers to failed vehicles. This can result in shops with two strikes being EXTREMELY conservative in their recommendations to not lose their license. I don't think that's a bad thing, because you have to be EXTREMELY sketchy to get those strikes in the first place. Many shops will give out stickers to people with mostly safe but maybe has a simple item kind of failing, but that likely depends on how "visible" the issue is because they have to sign their name on every single sticker.

It works really really well. I've been very buddy buddy with shops and they will still give me a thorough inspection. It's also a pretty basic inspection, meaning if you fail it you should probably not be on the road.

Re:American drivers have a blinding headlight problem. It co... by pmalynin on Thursday February 16, 2023 @10:37AM (#34820034)
Michigan is oppressive enough. Didn’t they sue tesla for offering direct to consumer (read bypassing the dealer network oligopoly) cars?
Re:American drivers have a blinding headlight problem. It co... by dsfyu404ed on Thursday February 16, 2023 @10:39AM (#34820060)
>Didn’t they sue tesla for offering direct to consumer (read bypassing the dealer network oligopoly) cars?

Call me cynical but given the entrenched and moneyed interests in that state I think you'd be a fool to expect otherwise.

Re:American drivers have a blinding headlight problem. It co... by qbrass on Thursday February 16, 2023 @11:48AM (#34821179)
GM and Ford have been trying to shed their dealer networks for the better part of a century, but even in Michigan, dealerships have more lobbying power than they do.

They're obviously not going to stand for Tesla doing what they're banned from doing. Even if they'd rather be doing it themselves.

Re:American drivers have a blinding headlight problem. It co... by thfuran on Thursday February 16, 2023 @10:45AM (#34820144)
You're saying that any regulation whatsoever of the dangerous heavy machinery that people operate in public is oppression?
Re:American drivers have a blinding headlight problem. It co... by whalesalad on Thursday February 16, 2023 @11:03AM (#34820417)
No, I didn’t say that. You’re insinuating that.

There is a balance. I’ve lived all over the US and I appreciate the fact that MI is less user hostile than other states in this regard. We still have regulations. California and Virginia are oppressive.

Re:American drivers have a blinding headlight problem. It co... by Steltek on Thursday February 16, 2023 @11:29AM (#34820863)
Inspections seems like a pretty basic part of regulation. That's like food safety laws but no health department.
Re:American drivers have a blinding headlight problem. It co... by aeonsky on Thursday February 16, 2023 @10:51AM (#34820247)
It was baffling to me when I was in Florida and rented a car. I was driving on the highways and no matter where I was, every highway was littered with abandoned cars. I had things fly off from a car into mine (splash shield). And then I realized its most likely because Florida has no safety inspections.

As a car enthusiast myself, I'm glad Mass has safety regulations and I don't have to jeopardize my safety or breathe pollution from cars rolling coal. Safety and car hobbies can go hand in hand.

Re:American drivers have a blinding headlight problem. It co... by lm28469 on Thursday February 16, 2023 @10:54AM (#34820284)
Meanwhile I've seen people crash their cars every single week during my stay in the US because they drove on tires they should have replaced literal years earlier.

In SV as soon as it rain google maps becomes a Christmas tree because there are hundreds of red icons signalling accident, 10%+ of cars over there have diy slick tires

Re:American drivers have a blinding headlight problem. It co... by anthomtb on Thursday February 16, 2023 @12:20PM (#34821752)
If any Europeans or Asians are wondering "why are America's vehicle standards so lax", here's your answer. There are a LOT of people that think the way this poster does.