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Re:The rise and fall of Microsoft’s new Bing by wkat4242 on Thursday February 16, 2023 @03:07AM (#34816219)
Bing Search is actually not bad if you use it through duckduckgo. It has much less ads than Google and seems to deliver better search results on the first page (mainly because Google's results are now mostly paid ads, not real results)

But I'd never use it directly. Before I'll even try their new chatbot someone will have to offer a privacy condom service for it like what duckduckgo does for search.

Always use protection when dealing with partners of questionable integrity :)

Re:The rise and fall of Microsoft’s new Bing by askvictor on Thursday February 16, 2023 @05:35AM (#34817058)
I tried DDG for a bit and was constantly being fed blog articles and 'developer websites' instead of canonical documentation for queries that I would have thought would go straight to (say) the main Python docs site. So I moved back to Google. Now Google does exactly the same thing. Time to try moving again I guess.

(Also, ads? What ads? Doesn't everyone use an adblocker?)

Re:The rise and fall of Microsoft’s new Bing by woefblaf123 on Thursday February 16, 2023 @05:36AM (#34817070)
I use an adblocker of course, but Google's top results are basically paid ads. An adblocker doesn't block them because they come from google themselves.

You can just pay google to be on the top for certain search terms, regardless of the actual relevance of your website.

So I'm calling them ads, but they are technically paid searh results. Indeed DDG is also pretty bad lately but I still consider it better than Google. It's just that the quality of both has gone down a lot due to these practices.

Re:The rise and fall of Microsoft’s new Bing by askvictor on Thursday February 16, 2023 @05:54PM (#34827780)
Are you saying that the top results in Google are paid results even then they don't have any markings/boxes/disclaimers indicating this is the case? I mean nothing surprises me anymore, but you'd at least imagine various regulators wouldn't be too happy about that.
Re:The rise and fall of Microsoft’s new Bing by wkat4242 on Thursday February 16, 2023 @06:09PM (#34828008)
Re:The rise and fall of Microsoft’s new Bing by askvictor on Thursday February 16, 2023 @06:21PM (#34828163)
Funnily enough, my adblocker blocks this page. In any case, the adblocker(s) I use (ublock origin in browser, pihole on the network) seem to block Google ads/paid search results. It does still clearly seem to be their policy to label all paid search results:

| This is a search result, not an ad. Only ads are paid, and they'll always be labelled with 'Sponsored' or 'Ad'.

Re:The rise and fall of Microsoft’s new Bing by justinclift on Thursday February 16, 2023 @06:39AM (#34817447)
Maybe try kagi (kagi.com)?

People have mentioned it here for a while, and I've been trying it over the last week (free trial thing).

So far, the results are definitely better than DDG. I don't use Google nor Bing though, so can't compare to those.

Re:The rise and fall of Microsoft’s new Bing by apple4ever on Friday February 17, 2023 @04:17PM (#34840699)
Does it not have the problem where on searches you go to the next pages and it's the same result over and over again over and over again over and over again