Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by cbo on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @04:21PM
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I find Wikipedia's blackout to be lacking in expedient information, and I see those tweets as evidence.
No where on that first page does it say "SOPA", "PIPA", or anything about censorship. I think the use of bigger, bolder text would've gotten the message across better than the more aesthetically-pleasing splash page they have now. Imagine how much more backlash there'd be if it had a look more inline with that have http://smbc-comics.com
It comes off as an issue that Wikipedia cares about, but doesn't explicitly tell me why I should care about it.
Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by missing_cipher on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @03:49PM
(#3481767)
It also shows just how powerful the blackout is. I much rather these people asking what's going on, then going on with their day in ignorance. Maybe a few hundred will learn what's up and phone their representative.
Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by danudey on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @05:05PM
(#3482063)
The fact that most of them seem to be completely ignorant of the reasons (which are spelt out right there on Wikipedia's blackout page, with a link to even more details) implies to me that these people are going to go on with their day in ignorance regardless.
Half of them seem to be angry at Wikipedia for taking away their free reference material the day before their papers are due, rather than angry at the government for putting a lot of time and money into destroying the internet.
Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by Cushman on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @04:31PM
(#3481917)
Don't take this as an indictment of the non-tech crowd; it's not just them.
Take this as evidence of the generic divide between "I care about this issue" and "I will pick up a phone and call my representative about this issue."
If you find a way to bridge that divide, you will have solved society.
Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by artursapek on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @05:31PM
(#3482166)
Honestly, I think these organic responses are valuable and eye-opening. They are coming from "common people" who don't heavily involve themselves in internet issues/browse reddit and therefore hadn't heard of any of this. I am so used to reading about SOPA on HN that I sort of forgot that most people who use the internet don't visit these corners.
I understand the point of that twitter account is to be funny (and it is) but I do think it holds value as proof of:
Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by reidmain on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @05:45PM
(#3482229)
I truly hope these aren't common people.
Based on those tweets it appears that the vast majority of them are still unaware of the legislation and the outrage has been directed everywhere but at SOPA/PIPA. Hell some of the most tweeted responses are about how Obama is ruining America and now he's taken down Wikipedia to boot.
Hopefully this is just a microcosm of the people who have been affected by the Wikipedia outage and most of them have made an attempt to contact their representative or at least talk about SOPA in a more intelligent manor with someone around them.
But there is now an awareness on this matter. I hope this gets more viral when people ask about it in school etc.
The whole blackout day shows one thing. Never rattle the wrong cage or make the "nerds" angry. Creative people will get their voice heard. Tech Companies can reach more people in less time than any other group on this planet and this was just one of many battles to come.
Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by dekz on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @06:55PM
(#3482503)
I'm not sure you could classify the use of the prevalent terms in those tweets as homophobia. Words also evolve over time, I highly doubt those twits are implying that wikipedia prefers same-sex websites. We're seeing the evolution of words through generations, where in this context it now means 'sucks'. This is an inevitable outcome and we see it time and time again.
Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by kevinh on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @08:50PM
(#3482843)
The conflation of gay as being both homosexual and stupid is a result of homophobia and continuing to use it as such is a conscious decision that marginalizes a group of people. Whether or not they outright intend it that way, they are using homophobic speech.
Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by dekz on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @09:24PM
(#3482936)
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? (a broad range will do fine if you like). What's remarkable is that the word gay actually used to mean 'carefree' or 'happy'. Asserting that it's being used as homophobic speech is incorrect. Once again, the word is experiencing another semantic shift.
Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by Achshar on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @02:23PM
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Well today, i feel great. I am essentially glad that the community can stand as a whole and keep aside their mutual competitive agendas. Today will defiantly be seen as a special day when they teach "internet history" to the next generation. And it feels great to be a part of it and witness it first hand. Plus seeing my non-geek friends posting about SOPA is not very bad either.
Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by corin_ on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @03:19PM
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For anyone about to click the above YouTube link: if you haven't yet seen the 1976 film Network, don't click the link, watch the film instead.
Watching it probably won't do much to spoil the film, though it is a great scene that's made greater by context - and it's a fantastic film, that more people should watch.
Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by agscala on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @05:50PM
(#3482249)
Others were mentioning before today that "Twitter should black out because it's one of the few services the people in the government use, so they would experience the impact of SOPA."
Twitter is a sounding board for the internet, and I think by having it available, SOPA is getting much more attention than it would have gotten than if it was blacked out. 250k/hr regarding one topic sure is nothing to sneeze at!
Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by IgorPartola on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @08:54PM
(#3482856)
Those messages would have come through tomorrow. And what is better: a few million tweets most of which are inarticulate or a single well presented page that EVERY TWITTER USER would read?
Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by wcgortel on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @02:59PM
(#3481556)
As wonderful as this is, we've got to remember that tweets are only a symptom of success. We've got to continue translating virtual action into actual action, like the NY Tech Meetup did today.
Even with that, I'm familiar with at least one SOPA agnostic who walked right by without noticing them. This still doesn't feel life and death to the Bobs and Marys around the country.
Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by grandalf on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @02:43PM
(#3481473)
This means nothing b/c if there were a vote, less than 10% of the people would show up at the polls over this issue... that's actually probably very very optimistic.
Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by drhowarddrfine on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @03:59PM
(#3481811)
Following the tweets through one service, I mostly saw pissed off college students with papers due within hours who lambasted Wikipedia for doing this.
Re:SOPA/PIPA: More than 250k tweets / hr
by reidmain on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @05:39PM
(#3482194)
And the worst thing is that they still don't know why Wikipedia is doing it. They just see the blacked out screen and their immediate reaction is not to read but to go complain on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/#!/herpderpedia
No where on that first page does it say "SOPA", "PIPA", or anything about censorship. I think the use of bigger, bolder text would've gotten the message across better than the more aesthetically-pleasing splash page they have now. Imagine how much more backlash there'd be if it had a look more inline with that have http://smbc-comics.com
It comes off as an issue that Wikipedia cares about, but doesn't explicitly tell me why I should care about it.
Half of them seem to be angry at Wikipedia for taking away their free reference material the day before their papers are due, rather than angry at the government for putting a lot of time and money into destroying the internet.
There's only one sentence at the end of the paragraph explaining why: "For 24 hours, to raise awareness, we are blacking out Wikipedia. Learn More"
The more page has a very detailed explanation in a FAQ format, but noones going to read this much text to figure it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Learn...
Here's a saner stream of tweets: https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23wikipediablackout
Take this as evidence of the generic divide between "I care about this issue" and "I will pick up a phone and call my representative about this issue."
If you find a way to bridge that divide, you will have solved society.
I understand the point of that twitter account is to be funny (and it is) but I do think it holds value as proof of:
A) The public unawareness of this legislation
B) The potential public outrage were it to pass
Based on those tweets it appears that the vast majority of them are still unaware of the legislation and the outrage has been directed everywhere but at SOPA/PIPA. Hell some of the most tweeted responses are about how Obama is ruining America and now he's taken down Wikipedia to boot.
Hopefully this is just a microcosm of the people who have been affected by the Wikipedia outage and most of them have made an attempt to contact their representative or at least talk about SOPA in a more intelligent manor with someone around them.
https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23wikipediablackout
But there is now an awareness on this matter. I hope this gets more viral when people ask about it in school etc.
The whole blackout day shows one thing. Never rattle the wrong cage or make the "nerds" angry. Creative people will get their voice heard. Tech Companies can reach more people in less time than any other group on this planet and this was just one of many battles to come.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WINDtlPXmmE
Watching it probably won't do much to spoil the film, though it is a great scene that's made greater by context - and it's a fantastic film, that more people should watch.
Twitter is a sounding board for the internet, and I think by having it available, SOPA is getting much more attention than it would have gotten than if it was blacked out. 250k/hr regarding one topic sure is nothing to sneeze at!
Even with that, I'm familiar with at least one SOPA agnostic who walked right by without noticing them. This still doesn't feel life and death to the Bobs and Marys around the country.