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Re: by jakub_g on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @02:17PM (#34809080)
> When I can't copy MY photos out of MY device, without uploading it to Apple's cloud.

Wait, what? (Not an Apple user - genuinely curious)

Re: by sixstringtheory on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @02:27PM (#34809267)
They probably mean from an iOS device to a PC/Android. It can be done without using iCloud, but you’ll need a macOS machine or special iOS app to do it.
Re: by dmonitor on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @02:53PM (#34809661)
I’m fairly certain photos are the one thing you can get out of an iOS device with relative ease. They just present themselves as a USB storage device with a DCIM folder. Music, Videos, etc require specialized tool but photos are the exception.
Re: by jurmous on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @03:13PM (#34809891)
You can download photos on a Windows PC through iTunes

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201302

Re: by KoftaBob on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @03:38PM (#34810229)
"Windows: You can import photos to your PC by connecting your device to your computer and using the Windows Photos app"

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201302

Re: by rchaud on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @04:08PM (#34810584)
This is still pretty bad, reminds me of using the iPod on Windows.

On my Android phone I can just send the photos directly to my MacOS machine via Bluetooth. No app required.

Re: by dheerajvs on Saturday February 18, 2023 @01:10AM (#34844412)
Bluetooth for file transfer in 2023?

You can setup a local web server and access all files using a Web browser from any device on the network. I have been using Trebleshot[0] on Android for this. Sadly the source code is archived now.

[0]: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.genonbeta.TrebleShot/

Re: by gofreddygo on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @05:50PM (#34812024)
It can be. Sure.

And a house can be painted with a toothpick.

At the end of an export, I have a folder full of randomly named files. Now What about timestamps? Image names? Location? Timezone? Edits I made on the iPhone? Image quality? Is it heic, jpeg, png?

Apple forums are loaded with frustrations as this

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252812655

At a $1000+ price point, I am a customer and I am offended.

Re: by aembleton on Thursday February 16, 2023 @05:27AM (#34817003)
Can't you just send them on Signal or upload to Dropbox?
Re: by account42 on Thursday February 16, 2023 @05:42AM (#34817109)
That's just using some other company's cloud. Why would you want to involve any third party for transferring files between your devices.