Maybe that's because you were an asshole about it. For example calling them fanboys

Nice try, but I've found it's impossible to convince assholes that maybe people aren’t mindless fanboys, but rather that everyone has different requirements for their personal devices and it’s fruitless to try and force your preferences on them.

Nice try, but I've found it's impossible to convince nerds that maybe businesses aren’t mindless tyrants, but rather that every firm has different target markets for their business model and it’s fruitless to try and force your preferences on them.

I would personally just not buy an iOS device for this reason, though now they're putting M* chips in them I suspect they'll eventually be jailbroken and able to run an open source operating sysem.

Nice try, but I've found it's impossible to convince businesses to break me out of jail.

You just need to find less respectable businesses, although the terms-and-conditions might be more, ah, strictly enforced.

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar, as they say. Bickering and attacking other people personally never makes for fun conversation.

That being said, the discussion goes beyond the feelings of people for and against Apple. This is directly about addressing their business practices relative to the rest of the market, and these side-effects suck. If these changes don't directly remove a feature you care about, then there is no reason to throw yourself in the line of fire. Apple, much like every other FAANG company on the ladder, is ruthless. They're a min-maxed value extraction machine with the greatest marketing team ever assembled. It's hurting the rest of the industry, to the point that regulators have to step in and tell them they're wrong. And when they do (like the Dutch antitrust ruling), they refuse to acknowledge the results as fair and ignore the fines.

That's asshole behavior. Petty arguing on the internet hurts nothing but your feelings. Apple's lack of accountability has enabled government surveillance, legitimized China's ethnic cleansing, and snuffed out anyone who would try to compete with them on their own platform. When you personally defend their mess, you look messy by association.

Fair

Because you're arguing morals, not reality. You say Apple is massively profitable at the expense of their users. The users experience phones that get security updates for many years and resale value so strong that owning an iPhone is cheaper than owning a flagship Android phone. You'd get more traction if you didn't make arguments that were easily refutable.

> The users experience phones that get security updates for many years and resale value so strong that owning an iPhone is cheaper than owning a flagship Android phone.

Nothing stops Apple to keep doing this while allowing for more freedom on the user side.