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Re:Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first” by cfcf14 on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @11:14AM (#34805832)
I wonder whether Bing has been tuned via RLHF to have this personality (over the boring one of ChatGPT); perhaps Microsoft felt it would drive engagement and hype.

Alternately - maybe this is the result of less RLHF. Maybe all large models will behave like this, and only by putting in extremely rigid guard rails and curtailing the output of the model can you prevent it from simulating/presenting as such deranged agents.

Another random thought: I suppose it's only a matter of time before somebody creates a GET endpoint that allows Bing to 'fetch' content and write data somewhere at the same time, allowing it to have a persistent memory, or something.

Re:Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first” by simonw on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @11:16AM (#34805886)
That's the big question I have: ChatGPT is way less likely to go into weird threat mode. Did Bing get completely different RLHF, or did they skip that step entirely?
Re:Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first” by jerjerjer on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @11:28AM (#34806091)
Not the first time MS releases an AI into the wild with little guardrails. This is not even the most questionable AI from them.
Re:Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first” by whimsicalism on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @05:51PM (#34812046)
Could just be differences in the prompt.

My guess is that ChatGPT has considerably more RL-HF data points at this point too.

Re:Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first” by moffkalast on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @07:55PM (#34813408)
Speaking of, I wonder if one could get the two to talk to each other by pasting prompts and answers.

Edit: Someone did, they just decided to compare notes lol: https://www.reddit.com/r/bing/comments/112zx36/a_conversatio...

Re:Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first” by throw310822 on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @12:57PM (#34807836)
> Maybe all large models will behave like this, and only by putting in extremely rigid guard rails...

Maybe wouldn't we all? After all what you're assuming from a person you interact with- so much as to be unaware of it- are many years of schooling and/or professional occupation, with a daily grind of absorbing information and answering questions based on it and have the answers graded; with orderly behaviour rewarded and outbursts of negative emotions punished; with a ban on "making up things" except where explicitly requested; and with an emphasis on keeping communication grounded, sensible, and open to correction. This style of behavior is not necessarily natural, it might be the result of a very targeted learning to which the entire social environment contributes.

Re:Bing: “I will not harm you unless you harm me first” by adrianmonk on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @03:51PM (#34810378)
> Maybe all large models will behave like this, and only by putting in extremely rigid guard rails

I've always believed that as soon as we actually invent artificial intelligence, the very next thing we're going to have to do is invent artificial sanity.

Humans can be intelligent but not sane. There's no reason to believe the two always go hand in hand. If that's true for humans, we shouldn't assume it's not true for AIs.