You mean Toyota? Or is Telsa implied? Model 3 had 15 recalls in 2020, 14 in 2021, 9 in 2022 with basics like "One or both taillights may intermittently fail to illuminate."

Most (all?) of these 'recalls' were fixed over the air

I don't mean to be mean, I know there's still a tendency to worship Musk and his companies, but pretty please ... just get with it. Tesla are just another vehicle manufacturer.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-recalls-16-vehicles-involved...

They're not but OK. Also what you posted agreed with what I posted.

They are just another vehicle manufacturer that fixes many recalls OTA without making you take time off work and go into the shop so they can upsell you on something else?

That seems kind of unusual to me, but I drive a 22 year old car.

All. At least for the Y since summer of 2021. There's a spectrum of car recalls from "we'll push it in the next update" to "bring it in or die".

FWIW, battery replacements really aren't that far to the right. The worst possible case is a battery fire, and those really aren't very dangerous in context (e.g. would you rather your car burn, or your powertrain or brakes fail suddenly?).

But they are extremely expensive for the manufacturer if they involve replacements. Not good business news for Ford if so, but we don't know yet.

What fraction of the recalls were fixed via OTA software updates?

For my 2020 Model 3, all but one of them. There was a recall to replace a cable in the trunk that could break, disabling the backup camera.[1] I still haven’t taken mine in to get the free replacement, but my backup camera has been fine.

1. https://www.consumerreports.org/car-recalls-defects/every-si...

competition is the fuel of our entire economy

Doesn't matter if you like or dislike the T-word or EM-himself. Fact is they have built one hell of an experienced/industrialized muscle in this field. That experience is priceless right now - Ford, VW, GM etc. don't just need to run-as-fast, they need to run faster. All the while not repeating the mistakes that others were allowed to make when there were less optics on the problem. This technology change is going to be a capital-intensive, painful experience for the incumbents.

Incumbents thought they were going to be bin assemblers as they’ve always been, not an engineering first org with cutting edge battery technology experience. Oops. Can’t MBA way your way to the lead, physics cannot be fooled. I hope they catch up, the space needs robust competition.

This is also why Tesla is building and selling 40GWh/year of stationary storage from their Lathrop Megapack manufacturing facility; their battery management systems are proven under the harshest conditions vehicles see. Utility storage demands are comparatively benign compared to high end powertrain duty cycles in top trims.

Thank god for the free market and competition, choice is in the interest of consumers.

Like Toyota (Prius), Nissan (Leaf), or Chevy (Bolt)? Among others.

You mean the one that famously has terrible quality control?

Is this the same car that is famously about to be best seller even tho it's 2-3x the price of the current best seller?

Slow down the oblique shots have gotten so vague I've lost track.

Post-production QA is an industry problem in general - the difference between systems is who does the QA.

In the dealership model - after transit, they do a once over and post-production/transit repairs before the car appears on the lot. So much so that most states wrote legislation to limit repairs allowed while still being called "new". (often ~5% of the retail value of the car). Note that dealers also pay wholesale rates on the cost estimate for that, so this can be quite large repairs.

The T* direct-model should put the SC in that same spot. Bug is they're not doing the work - probably the emphasis on throughput incentivizes the wrong behavior. All too often the the SC tries to palm-off problems and/or the consumer has to do drive QA. Fixing it means the customer is on point - obviously YMMV.

IMHO this is a huge gap and flaw. Unfortunately OEM dealership behavior is so predatorily atrocious that even this flaw isn't enough to overcome the otherwise positive T* sales experience. I now know how few signatures are needed to buy a car in my state. I have zero intention of participating in the "sit outside of a finance office for an hour, no I don't need Scotchgard, interest rate manipulation" routine ever again.

Dealerships often talk about "relationships" - this BS sales talk - we're just prey to them.

Yes, Hyundai/Kia are out there!

Hyundai/Kia seems to be having a fair amount of recalls about potential fires in things that don't normally catch fire.

The idea of packing them full of lithium is not drawing me in right this moment.

Hopefully in a secure location.

The new generation, Hyundai ioniq 5 and Kia EV6, have immobilisers.

And they have the added benefit of not looking ugly.

Like GM, who had their EV packs fail and catch fire? Like Toyota, who had their HEV software fail in extreme cold and need an update?

No automaker is perfect.

If only any of them made good EVs...

Or even better weren't trading one ecological disaster for another.

Which is less of a disaster? That's all that matters and you making it a binary situation is overly simplistic and likely done on purpose due to your political beliefs