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Re:Transparent Aluminum by gus_massa on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @09:25AM (#3479774)
The title is a little misleading.

This material is not metallic transparent aluminum. It is a transparent aluminum ceramic.

A lot of ceramics are made (in part) of aluminum. I think that this is interesting because it's transparent.

Re:Transparent Aluminum by starwed on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @12:09PM (#3480681)
It's phrased that way because of the Star Trek IV reference.

I think it comes up in the same scene where Scotty is flustered because the 1980's computer doesn't respond to voice commands...

Re:Transparent Aluminum by redthrowaway on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @02:52PM (#3481523)
"Use the mouse."

Scotty picks up mouse, speaks to it

"Hello computer..."

From the comments, it seems not many people got the reference. That's a shame, as it means people are either not a fan of Star trek (blasphemy), or are not old enough to get the reference, which makes me feel antiquated.

Re:Transparent Aluminum by philwelch on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @01:26PM (#3481056)
> the 1980's computer

Which is, incidentally, a Mac Plus.

Re:Transparent Aluminum by durkie on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @10:05AM (#3479997)
Agreed. AlON is cool stuff, but sapphire / aluminum oxide is just as transparent.

Maybe they can do a followup on transparent silicon next: this silicon dioxide stuff is super clear!

Re:Transparent Aluminum by ximeng on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @10:39AM (#3480197)
That other engineering news source "The Daily Mail" has a non-blacked out article on this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2088257/Star-...

Re:Transparent Aluminum by lotharbot on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @11:02AM (#3480317)
Re:Transparent Aluminum by twelvechairs on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @09:12AM (#3479712)
Key sentence: "successfully resists a huge, powerful .50 AP bullet that smashes easily through more than twice that thickness of conventional laminated glass armor"

So in reality this is a modest improvement (2x) over existing laminated glass armour for use where both thickness and resistance are critical (ie. probably for specialist military applications only)

Re:Transparent Aluminum by nickolai on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @09:14AM (#3479728)
> So in reality this is a modest improvement (2x) over existing laminated glass armour

More than 2x actually - the guy behind the glass would be dead, unlike the one behind their improved glass. I'd say this is a significant difference - they deserve some extra credit for keeping the guy behind their armor alive.

I do find the title a little misleading though, since this has nothing to do with metallic aluminum as one would expect from reading the title.

Re:Transparent Aluminum by endtime on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @01:39PM (#3481135)
>More than 2x actually - the guy behind the glass would be dead, unlike the one behind their improved glass.

I think what twelvechairs meant is that you have to buy (at least) twice as much of the old stuff to keep the guy alive.

Re:Transparent Aluminum by jonhendry on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @12:46PM (#3480850)
How do their weights compare?

If the new stuff is the same weight by volume as conventional laminated glass, then you'd have a 50% weight savings.

If the new stuff is thinner, and lighter, then it'd be useful for applications where the current glass is too thick and/or heavy.

Also, in applications like secure windows for bank tellers and such, something thinner would probably be better aesthetically. When you're dealing with someone behind a thick sheet of glass, it puts a different tone on the interaction.

Re:Transparent Aluminum by aidenn0 on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @08:43PM (#3482826)
Alon is ~3.7g/cc which is about twice what ordinary glass weighs. Not sure how it compares to laminated glass. They probably use a denser glass than I'm used to for armored glass, but it's layered with other, presumably less-dense material.
Re:Transparent Aluminum by absconditus on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @02:26PM (#3481390)
I doubt that most "bullet-proof" glass could stop a 50 caliber round at all. The thickness required would be ridiculous.
Re:Transparent Aluminum by absconditus on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @02:20PM (#3481359)
Without knowing the failure points of both products I am not sure how you can make such a claim. The glass failed in this demonstration and the ALON did not. Obviously the glass needs to be even thicker (making it a ridiculous solution in most cases) and the ALON might work even if it is thinner.
Re:Transparent Aluminum by billswift on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @02:42PM (#3481466)
"The material, aluminium oxynitride, known as AION, is four times harder than fused silica glass, 85 per cent as hard as sapphire and stable up to a temperature of 1,200C."

Quote from the Daily Mail article linked above.

Re:Transparent Aluminum by rplnt on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @10:16AM (#3480050)
Blacked out. This SOPA thing could be really bad.
Re:Transparent Aluminum by billswift on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @02:38PM (#3481434)
Those sites that are completely blacked out, like makezine and Wikipedia, are doing exactly what many accuse DRM of doing. Annoying their users while producing no real benefit. Google's and HN's methods are better.

ADDED: Most of them don't particularly matter to me, I rarely use Wikipedia, for example. The one that has annoyed me is the Internet Archive blackout - www.archive.org

Re:Transparent Aluminum by slmbrhrt on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @11:08AM (#3480335)

  McCoy: You know, if we give him the formula, we'll be altering the future.
  Scotty: Why? how do you know he didn't invent the thing!
Re:Transparent Aluminum by powertower on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @09:11AM (#3479707)
The Presidential limo is rumored to have its windows made out of this stuff.
Re:Transparent Aluminum by dspillett on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @10:38AM (#3480188)
I has also been used to build a tank for transporting humpback whales between the 20th and the 23rd centuries.
Re:Transparent Aluminum by bdg on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @11:45AM (#3480552)
I heard it was designed with a manual interface as well. How quaint.
Re:Transparent Aluminum by mindhunter on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @09:35AM (#3479828)
So this is what the next macbook pro will be made of?
Re:Transparent Aluminum by pavel_lishin on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @10:05AM (#3479996)
Only if a significant number of people show up at the Genius Bar with bullet-riddled macbooks.
Re:Transparent Aluminum by ben1040 on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @12:19PM (#3480728)
Re:Transparent Aluminum by hyperbovine on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @10:19AM (#3480060)
There are hidden bullet sensors all over the chassis, you wouldn't stand a chance.
Re:Transparent Aluminum by kingkawn on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @09:46AM (#3479886)
remind me to try reading this tomorrow
Re:Transparent Aluminum by RBerenguel on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @10:20AM (#3480066)
I was expecting some Star Trek reference in the comments. Seriously, nobody? Everyone blackened their geekdom to fight SOPA?
Re:Transparent Aluminum by Ctech237 on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @10:55AM (#3480284)
That was the first comment I was gonna write when I saw the title, but you beat me to it.