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Re:Transparent Aluminum by twelvechairs on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @09:12AM (#3479712)
Key sentence: "successfully resists a huge, powerful .50 AP bullet that smashes easily through more than twice that thickness of conventional laminated glass armor"

So in reality this is a modest improvement (2x) over existing laminated glass armour for use where both thickness and resistance are critical (ie. probably for specialist military applications only)

Re:Transparent Aluminum by nickolai on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @09:14AM (#3479728)
> So in reality this is a modest improvement (2x) over existing laminated glass armour

More than 2x actually - the guy behind the glass would be dead, unlike the one behind their improved glass. I'd say this is a significant difference - they deserve some extra credit for keeping the guy behind their armor alive.

I do find the title a little misleading though, since this has nothing to do with metallic aluminum as one would expect from reading the title.

Re:Transparent Aluminum by endtime on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @01:39PM (#3481135)
>More than 2x actually - the guy behind the glass would be dead, unlike the one behind their improved glass.

I think what twelvechairs meant is that you have to buy (at least) twice as much of the old stuff to keep the guy alive.

Re:Transparent Aluminum by jonhendry on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @12:46PM (#3480850)
How do their weights compare?

If the new stuff is the same weight by volume as conventional laminated glass, then you'd have a 50% weight savings.

If the new stuff is thinner, and lighter, then it'd be useful for applications where the current glass is too thick and/or heavy.

Also, in applications like secure windows for bank tellers and such, something thinner would probably be better aesthetically. When you're dealing with someone behind a thick sheet of glass, it puts a different tone on the interaction.

Re:Transparent Aluminum by aidenn0 on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @08:43PM (#3482826)
Alon is ~3.7g/cc which is about twice what ordinary glass weighs. Not sure how it compares to laminated glass. They probably use a denser glass than I'm used to for armored glass, but it's layered with other, presumably less-dense material.
Re:Transparent Aluminum by absconditus on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @02:26PM (#3481390)
I doubt that most "bullet-proof" glass could stop a 50 caliber round at all. The thickness required would be ridiculous.
Re:Transparent Aluminum by absconditus on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @02:20PM (#3481359)
Without knowing the failure points of both products I am not sure how you can make such a claim. The glass failed in this demonstration and the ALON did not. Obviously the glass needs to be even thicker (making it a ridiculous solution in most cases) and the ALON might work even if it is thinner.
Re:Transparent Aluminum by billswift on Wednesday January 18, 2012 @02:42PM (#3481466)
"The material, aluminium oxynitride, known as AION, is four times harder than fused silica glass, 85 per cent as hard as sapphire and stable up to a temperature of 1,200C."

Quote from the Daily Mail article linked above.