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Re:More than five whys and “layer eight” problems by Thervicarl on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @03:38AM (#34786920)
> I've worked with so many truly incompetent and stupid teams and organizations

And all of them have deemed you a suitable fit for their incompetent and stupid team or organization.

Re:More than five whys and “layer eight” problems by atoav on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @04:54AM (#34787391)
Not to defend the poster here, but some of the stuff I have seen is truly to the point where you wonder if anybody of those people actually cares about getting things done at all.

As someone who works as an educator at an art school where chaos is the rule, I must say if your company is less organized than a spontaneously formed group of twenty year old crazy-chaotic (and probably drunk) art students, you should probably just close down operations and change your career.

And yes, I have seen such organizations, companies and "professionals".

Re:More than five whys and “layer eight” problems by Aeolun on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @07:40AM (#34788483)
> you should probably just close down operations and change your career

Why? It brings in boatloads of money.

Re:More than five whys and “layer eight” problems by hef19898 on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @09:39AM (#34789939)
If you exclude VC money in the near future, bringing in those boatloads requires a minimum of actual competency so. Even VC funding requires that, just in different departments.
Re:More than five whys and “layer eight” problems by ilyt on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @09:34AM (#34789849)
I mean, it's easy to get hired into team that's less competent than you as by definition you'd breeze any question they have on recruiting so it really shouldn't be surprising