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Re:Twilio is firing 17% of workforce by varjag on Monday February 13, 2023 @01:44PM (#34778138)
RN tech talent is getting desperate to keep any job out there, perks or not.
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Re:Twilio is firing 17% of workforce by carlhjerpe on Monday February 13, 2023 @01:52PM (#34778261)
Right now as in this very moment? Maybe people are more careful what they wish for, but how many of these fired people will go unemployed? I bet most land a position pretty much anywhere they point, I'm still getting LinkedIn recruiter spam daily.
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Re:Twilio is firing 17% of workforce by phpisthebest on Monday February 13, 2023 @01:57PM (#34778372)
>> I'm still getting LinkedIn recruiter spam daily.

yea and they have not filled those positions for a reason....

>>Right now as in this very moment?

Ironically it is very regional. Some areas in the US are seeing very high unemployment numbers. Largely because most remote work has dried up, and the few companies still doing remote limit to states where they have an office so you can not just "live anywhere" like the promise of FT WFH was

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Re:Twilio is firing 17% of workforce by nradov on Monday February 13, 2023 @02:30PM (#34778945)
Which specific areas are seeing high unemployment numbers?

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

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Re:Twilio is firing 17% of workforce by varjag on Monday February 13, 2023 @02:25PM (#34778868)
No not really. I know people who were at multiples of FAANG who struggle to find jobs for months now (SWEs & SREs). Certainly noone's going to snub an offer for lack of remote.
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Re:Twilio is firing 17% of workforce by ZephyrBlu on Monday February 13, 2023 @03:20PM (#34779771)
What was their previous comp and what companies are they applying for? If you're looking for half a mil comp at top tech companies, yeah it's going to slim pickings.
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Re:Twilio is firing 17% of workforce by ptero on Monday February 13, 2023 @04:09PM (#34780551)
Also, there is (a non-unsurmountable) hurdle of coming from FAANG in that hiring managers suspect that someone coming from a FAANG to a much less cushy position simply wants to sit out a downturn or a burndown before jumping back.
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Re:Twilio is firing 17% of workforce by pm90 on Monday February 13, 2023 @08:38PM (#34783948)
I feel like this is true for any employee.
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Re:Twilio is firing 17% of workforce by rebeccaskinner on Monday February 13, 2023 @04:27PM (#34780845)
> Certainly noone's going to snub an offer for lack of remote.

I wouldn't take a non-remote job until it's that or homelessnes. I need to optimize for the long term viability of my career, and that means avoiding long-covid, which in turn means avoiding working in an office.

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Re:Twilio is firing 17% of workforce by varjag on Monday February 13, 2023 @05:00PM (#34781364)
Sure. When you're out of job for months a foreclosure becomes increasingly less hypothetical.
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Re:Twilio is firing 17% of workforce by rebeccaskinner on Monday February 13, 2023 @05:25PM (#34781704)
Certainly for most people there’s a point where there’s no choice left and if your only option is to work on-site then that’s what you’ll have to do. My point was simply that there are a lot of people, myself included, who would snub an on-sight offer as long as there are other options.

I see a lot of people assuming that remote work is merely a preference, but for a lot of people it’s a lot more than that. Avoiding contracting Covid in the office is a difference between life and death for some people- and the difference between a productive long term career or a struggle to eek out a living in the face of long term disabilities due to long covid for others.

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Re:Twilio is firing 17% of workforce by ghaff on Monday February 13, 2023 @06:39PM (#34782641)
Well, at this point, for a lot of roles, the choice between never going into an office, or attending a meeting, or taking a business trip does involve pretty severe career tradeoffs. I'm on a distributed team and travel is pretty locked down because of budgets but I still don't really have the flexibility to say I'm not leaving my house (If I wanted to, which I don't).
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Re:Twilio is firing 17% of workforce by rebeccaskinner on Monday February 13, 2023 @11:38PM (#34785366)
It’s a trade-off for sure. There are companies where you can be successful without in-person events, but that’s not going to be every company or remote team. I’m comfortable with the trade-off. I’m an extrovert, and I miss meeting people I work with regularly (even though I’ve always disliked travel). Unfortunately, putting my feelings aside, a sober analysis of the state of Covid right now has me convinced that it’s still really really worth avoiding as much as possible.
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Re:Twilio is firing 17% of workforce by moneywoes on Monday February 13, 2023 @02:29PM (#34778926)
Are you a senior, i seem to be missing these
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Re:Twilio is firing 17% of workforce by randomdata on Monday February 13, 2023 @06:22PM (#34782470)
> I'm still getting LinkedIn recruiter spam daily.

As long as it hasn't intensified, I guess. If you start getting a lot more recruiter spam then you'll know that the jobs are few and far between. The easier it is for employers to hire the picker they'll be, which makes things much, much harder for recruiters to find a good fit and more pressure to be the person responsible for filling the position to keep their own job.

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