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Re:Ohio catastrophe is ‘wake-up call’ to dangers of deadly t... by lordnacho on Monday February 13, 2023 @10:25AM (#34774545)
Isn't vinyl chloride a carcinogen?
Re:Ohio catastrophe is ‘wake-up call’ to dangers of deadly t... by LarryMullins on Monday February 13, 2023 @10:35AM (#34774711)
Hell yes, and burning it is sure to create dioxins which are carcinogenic too.
Re:Ohio catastrophe is ‘wake-up call’ to dangers of deadly t... by xadhominemx on Monday February 13, 2023 @10:45AM (#34774932)
You can get dioxins when burning vinyl chloride polymers (“poly vinyl chloride”), but not the vinyl chloride monomer, if my chemistry degree serves me correctly.
Re:Ohio catastrophe is ‘wake-up call’ to dangers of deadly t... by LarryMullins on Monday February 13, 2023 @10:51AM (#34775050)
Is that a risk you'd take with your own life, or just a risk you think other people should take with their own lives but not yours?
Re:Ohio catastrophe is ‘wake-up call’ to dangers of deadly t... by xadhominemx on Monday February 13, 2023 @11:03AM (#34775256)
Well like I said I used to be a chemist so I was exposed to organic vapors every day. if the dioxins are there they will be very easy to measure.
Re:Ohio catastrophe is ‘wake-up call’ to dangers of deadly t... by LarryMullins on Monday February 13, 2023 @11:20AM (#34775515)
For starters, you could acknowledge that a train explosion is already well outside normal lab conditions for vinyl chloride. Don't pretend you know what compounds were formed in this accident. Modeling this incident as a low exposure (see: your dismissal of the carcinogenic nature of vinyl chloride) to the pure substance is absurd.

Put your life where your mouth is and go live there.

Re:Ohio catastrophe is ‘wake-up call’ to dangers of deadly t... by dang on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @02:30AM (#34801055)
Would you please stop posting flamebait/unsubstantive comments? You've been doing it repeatedly, unfortunately, and if you keep doing it then we're going to have to ban you again.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

Re:Ohio catastrophe is ‘wake-up call’ to dangers of deadly t... by perihelions on Monday February 13, 2023 @12:32PM (#34776895)
AP quotes two different experts warning about dioxins from this incident. Did they get it wrong?

https://apnews.com/article/rail-accidents-evacuations-ohio-h...

Re:Ohio catastrophe is ‘wake-up call’ to dangers of deadly t... by xadhominemx on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @08:00AM (#34788659)
Yes, I disagree with the professor. I think you will get very little dioxin contamination from burning vinyl chloride monomer in atmospheric conditions.
Re:Ohio catastrophe is ‘wake-up call’ to dangers of deadly t... by rbanffy on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @09:35AM (#34804319)
Can’t heat drive some polymerisation?
Re:Ohio catastrophe is ‘wake-up call’ to dangers of deadly t... by xadhominemx on Thursday February 16, 2023 @09:41AM (#34819218)
It’s being actively combusted…