Another UFO shot down over Canada by US

Re:Another UFO shot down over Canada by US by jeswin on Sunday February 12, 2023 @01:24AM (#34760411)

For all its flaws, I'd take a democracy over the Soviets the 80s, or CCP/North Korea today. I can't imagine what the world would have looked like if the Soviets won the cold war, or if the CCP wins the next.

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Re:Another UFO shot down over Canada by US by logicalmind on Sunday February 12, 2023 @01:37AM (#34760487)

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite.

-John Kenneth Galbraith

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Re:Another UFO shot down over Canada by US by scruple on Sunday February 12, 2023 @01:58AM (#34760579)

That's funny but under one of these systems the people have a hope of fixing the ineptitude and corruption. Under the other, ehhh...

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Re:Another UFO shot down over Canada by US by localplume on Sunday February 12, 2023 @04:34AM (#34761425)

cute quote, but meaningless. ask anyone who lived in a communist/ex-soviet state which is better. also why [over 100,000 citizens of east germany](https://www.berlin.de/mauer/en/history/victims-of-the-wall/) tried to escape, many dying in their attempts. its without a doubt which is better.

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Re:Another UFO shot down over Canada by US by ggm on Sunday February 12, 2023 @01:44AM (#34760520)

Most counterfactual fiction in this space has the repressive state continuing to be repressive and normalising "othering" of <bad people> and it's a well trodden path. Robert Harris, Len Deighton, Ira Levin, Yevgeny Zamyatin. Harry Harrison, Ward Moore.

Winning under MAD is moot. There undoubtedly will be losers at scale.

Historians differ if forcing the soviets to bankruptcy was necessarily better than a rapprochement. It worked, sure but like the end of ww1 gave birth to stab in the back rightist views of history, the FSU is now a kleptocracy and minor fights in Africa and the Middle east are now entrenched social cancers.

Afghanistan and the role of US funds to Pakistan on the region. Not a net benefit all told.

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Re:Another UFO shot down over Canada by US by throwaway290 on Sunday February 12, 2023 @02:03AM (#34760604)

I'm Russian and I am of the same opinion.

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Re:Another UFO shot down over Canada by US by darthrupert on Sunday February 12, 2023 @02:27AM (#34760710)

95% of humanity would also, if they were given a fair choice and knowledge of all those systems.

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