Re:Ask HN: Are Paul Graham's Classic Startup Essays Outdated?
by phkahler on Saturday February 11, 2023 @08:04AM
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YC in the beginning was all about giving the people who make things a shot at using their ability and ideas to start a company. Now it's founders, funding, and hiring the first engineer.
Maybe half of what PG said is out of date, but a lot of that is because he wrote about a fundamentally different kind of startup. I think those stillexist, just not at YC any more.
Re:Ask HN: Are Paul Graham's Classic Startup Essays Outdated?
by version_five on Saturday February 11, 2023 @09:24AM
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There was a list of Thiel fellows published the other day* and it struck me that the companies listed are mostly all pretty mainstream sounding startups and founders that wouldn't stand out on a list from YC or another VC. Maybe it's always been that way, I had in my mind that a program like that was trying to be a little more outside the box, but it feels pretty mainstream. I dont know what "next" looks like but the whole scene feels a bit like a copy of a copy of a copy now. (I'm not criticizing any individuals, just the relative uniformity of a scene that presents itself as high risk bets on genuinely new stuff)
* https://finance.yahoo.com/news/thiel-foundation-announces-ne...
Re:Ask HN: Are Paul Graham's Classic Startup Essays Outdated?
by intelVISA on Saturday February 11, 2023 @01:12PM
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Always funny to see the "modern YC startup" of two corp-types looking to offer the privilege of a crappy salary and tiny equity to a 'founding engineer' to build their product for them.
I would say I'm saddened but ultimately VC money far outpaced the small minority of people who can build things.
Re:Ask HN: Are Paul Graham's Classic Startup Essays Outdated?
by tough on Saturday February 11, 2023 @01:46PM
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Every time I see some of these, I'm reminded I should apply and get the equity myself.
But oh well, I'm not a US grad coming out of MIT or whatever those kids seem to have
Re:Ask HN: Are Paul Graham's Classic Startup Essays Outdated?
by k__ on Saturday February 11, 2023 @08:16AM
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I guess, bootstrapping and grants are the "new" way.
Re:Ask HN: Are Paul Graham's Classic Startup Essays Outdated?
by intelVISA on Saturday February 11, 2023 @01:05PM
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I've seen some startup horrors subsidized by nebulous gov't grants. Money laundering for the elite always finds a way.
Re:Ask HN: Are Paul Graham's Classic Startup Essays Outdated?
by version_five on Saturday February 11, 2023 @03:05PM
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Almost the entire Canadian startup ecosystem is like that (other industries too)
Like instead of living in a loft built in an abandoned factory in an obscure part of town, buying a new-build condo with exposed vents and some brick on one of the walls.
A lot of startups are just outsourced corporate innovation, or a VC bet on the founders, more like the investors hiring someone for a role than an organic "invention in the garage". Not always true of course, but a shift overall