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Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by jklm on Friday February 10, 2023 @04:13PM (#34745923)
Interestingly enough, Substack is heading down the same direction - when you get linked to an article, it now forces a full screen popup on you asking if you want to subscribe or just read.
Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by SQueeeeeL on Friday February 10, 2023 @05:07PM (#34746612)
None of the incentives changed. We really just need someone egalitarian to make the craigslist of blogs and never be tempted to stab the goose who's laying the golden eggs for quick monetization. The blogging space is too long-term for that short sighted nonsense
Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by Permit on Friday February 10, 2023 @05:12PM (#34746681)
> never be tempted to stab the goose who's laying the golden eggs

Isn’t the whole point that there are no golden eggs? People don’t want to pay and people don’t want ads. Where would you get income for the authors and for the platform itself?

Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by anigbrowl on Friday February 10, 2023 @06:07PM (#34747253)
Write a book or become an e-celeb and go on tour. 90% of blog/newsletter content (which are basically the same thing) is just self-promotion anyway.
Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by Firmwarrior on Saturday February 11, 2023 @11:27AM (#34753710)
Yeah man, the popups on blogs feel a lot like being forced to watch commercials before a movie trailer
Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by vimda on Friday February 10, 2023 @06:22PM (#34747409)
I think there's monitization models somewhere there. Off the top of my head, you could go the email route and charge for "premium" features. Analytics, custom domains etc.

Either that or it could to be run as a loss leader for some other service

Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by readwriterick on Friday February 10, 2023 @07:33PM (#34748096)
The thing is there's no money in charging writers, really. There's just not enough of them, and they aren't going to pay you enough (certainly not to reach golden egg territory). You must monetize on a per reader basis if you want real revenue.
Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by PaulHoule on Sunday February 12, 2023 @09:49AM (#34763177)
There is a market but how big, I'd assume that these are real offers

https://wordpress.com/pricing/?compare=1#lpc-pricing

that seem like what somebody would pay. If you'd assume somebody spends 4 hours a week blogging and their time is worth $25 an hour you'd be putting $400 of hour of labor in a month and spending $40 for hosting is a fraction of that. That $25/hour would seem low to some people but high to others: some people are time-rich and cash-poor and others the other way around.

The horrific truth about the "Next Medium" is that it is going to appeal to people who are too lazy to write a successful blog by having GPT-4 write their blog posts for them.

Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by candiddevmike on Friday February 10, 2023 @05:09PM (#34746643)
This would be a good service for the Wikimedia Foundation to provide, IMO.
Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by neodymiumphish on Friday February 10, 2023 @06:09PM (#34747282)
What's wrong with GitHub spaces?
Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by neodymiumphish on Friday February 10, 2023 @06:10PM (#34747288)
Pages*
Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by inerte on Friday February 10, 2023 @10:05PM (#34749179)
From my perspective there's nothing wrong, but most of the population that has ever even heard of Github think of it as a complex programmer's only thing.

I remember a project I did some time ago where we required Github integration, every employee of the company was supposed to have a Github account, it was even part of the onboarding day, there was a very internal knowledge base page on how to setup Github, and EVEN then people would just hear the word "Github" and freak out saying a bunch of people in the company would never ever be able to setup an account there.

Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by drc500free on Friday February 10, 2023 @05:10PM (#34746661)
Somehow I find that less annoying with substack, because their positioning is clearly "look, this is a newsletter, not a blog." The dark UI patterns around dismissing the pop up are annoying though.
Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by wkat4242 on Friday February 10, 2023 @05:57PM (#34747164)
Yeah that's the problem. I don't want a newsletter, I want a blog.

And like the OP I only care about people reading my stuff. I don't care about monetisation and I definitely don't want to put them through all the crap that medium does.. substack is not a great alternative because it's also monetisation focused for authors.

Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by whiplash451 on Saturday February 11, 2023 @07:29AM (#34751756)
Genuine question. Isn’t HN what you are looking for then? What else would you need from a blog?
Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by wkat4242 on Saturday February 11, 2023 @09:03AM (#34752360)
Good question!

I thought of it but Hacker News posts are pure text, you can't add a single picture. The reading format is also not suitable for long form, and it makes the post text kinda grey which makes it even harder to read.

So, no. The community is great but it's not a blogging platform. I could self host my blog and post links here for discovery but self-promotion is generally frowned upon. I don't want to abuse the community.

Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by rsync on Saturday February 11, 2023 @04:26PM (#34756535)
"I thought of it but Hacker News posts are pure text, you can't add a single picture."

... which is, in my opinion, an overlooked and extremely powerful filter.

Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by PaulHoule on Sunday February 12, 2023 @09:44AM (#34763131)
It's a great way to reduce the moderation burden.

If people can upload images people will upload atrocity pictures (with the caption POST A STUPID IMAGE MEME... U DIE!), lewd pictures, CSAM pictures, and other things that will waste your time to manage if they don't get you in trouble outright. (It was super easy to get a basically G rated site demonetized with a 10⁻⁴ fraction of problem images ten years ago, it must be much worse now.)

Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by PaulHoule on Sunday February 12, 2023 @09:40AM (#34763104)
For me one problem with the newsletter is that everybody and his brother and his sister and his other brother wants to send me email spams several times a day. The only way I can keep it manageable is to remove myself from every list as soon as I can.

I've been building my own smart RSS reader so I'd much rather add a feed to by reader which puts me, the reader, in control.

Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by SanjayMehta on Friday February 10, 2023 @06:23PM (#34747420)
Substack has RSS feeds.
Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by subarctic on Friday February 10, 2023 @06:44PM (#34747653)
It's done that as long as I can remember - the "let me read it first" thing, right? Or did they change something recently?
Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by ren_engineer on Friday February 10, 2023 @07:01PM (#34747840)
companies have to make money at some point, it's not coincidence all these same types of sites do the same thing once they've burned through their VC money and have to make money. Hosting this type of stuff is a commodity service, it's why you constantly see a churn of people from each VC subsidized service
Re:Ask HN: Why Did Medium.com “Fail"? by simonsarris on Friday February 10, 2023 @09:21PM (#34748923)
As an author, you can turn this off in the settings