Re:AI assistants: The convenient crutch for new developers o...
by blackbear_ on Friday February 10, 2023 @01:08PM
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By definition, there's never any data to judge innovations. Obviously some opinions turns out to be wrong, but if everybody just waits for data before doing anything, nothing will ever happen. So if you don't like what they are saying, at least try to provide a counterargument.
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Re:AI assistants: The convenient crutch for new developers o...
by brookst on Friday February 10, 2023 @01:19PM
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“There is no evidence supporting that argument” is a counter argument.
Or maybe it’s better to say that hand-wringing is not an argument that merits a counter argument.
Re:AI assistants: The convenient crutch for new developers o...
by dumpsterdiver on Friday February 10, 2023 @02:25PM
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The difference is that one side has put actual thought into their argument, while the other side is attempting to invalidate the argument based on the fact that people other than themselves have not put in the work necessary to make a claim one way or the other.
Scientific progress doesn't happen by referencing the vast stores of data that we haven't collected.
Re:AI assistants: The convenient crutch for new developers o...
by brookst on Friday February 10, 2023 @03:31PM
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Thought != data
Re:AI assistants: The convenient crutch for new developers o...
by dumpsterdiver on Friday February 10, 2023 @05:29PM
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Indeed. Thought is what makes data useful. When you don't have either then you don't really have much of an argument, do you?
Re:AI assistants: The convenient crutch for new developers o...
by blackbear_ on Friday February 10, 2023 @05:08PM
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That is a pretty common logical fallacy. It is actually a well-eatablished fact that "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence", i.e., maybe the reason why there is no evidence is that nobody looked for it, or, as is the case here, because something is too new to find any evidence in either direction
Re:AI assistants: The convenient crutch for new developers o...
by brookst on Friday February 10, 2023 @06:26PM
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I think you’re mistaking the fallacy. That fallacy is best applied when someone asserts certainty in absence, as in the case of God.
If someone just asserts some random thing, it’s reasonable to ask for evidence. While their lack of evidence does not disprove their point, it’s certainly an argument for being skeptical about their point.
Otherwise I get to assert that every atom is a superintelligence, and your inability to provide contrary evidence is a point in my favor.