Show HN: boxxy – Control where Linux programs put files, without symlinks

Re:Show HN: boxxy – Control where Linux programs put files, ... by Animats on Thursday February 09, 2023 @07:31PM (#34733887)

If only.

There is a single base directory relative to which user-specific data files should be written. This directory is defined by the environment variable $XDG_DATA_HOME.

There is a single base directory relative to which user-specific configuration files should be written. This directory is defined by the environment variable $XDG_CONFIG_HOME.

Neither of those environment variables is defined on a stock Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS.

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Re:Show HN: boxxy – Control where Linux programs put files, ... by doodlesdev on Thursday February 09, 2023 @08:21PM (#34734363)

$XDG_DATA_HOME defines the base directory relative to which user-specific data files should be stored. If $XDG_DATA_HOME is either not set or empty, a default equal to $HOME/.local/share should be used.
$XDG_CONFIG_HOME defines the base directory relative to which user-specific configuration files should be stored. If $XDG_CONFIG_HOME is either not set or empty, a default equal to $HOME/.config should be used.

$XDG_STATE_HOME defines the base directory relative to which user-specific state files should be stored. If $XDG_STATE_HOME is either not set or empty, a default equal to $HOME/.local/state should be used.

https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-...

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Re:Show HN: boxxy – Control where Linux programs put files, ... by jessaustin on Friday February 10, 2023 @08:24AM (#34739328)

I like this system overall, but this particular aspect seems like a mistake [0] to me. Instead of a simple rule like "use these envars", it has this more complicated logic that must be replicated in all apps supported by all developers. Users would have more agency if they could inform apps of their preferences by simply setting some envars. [1] If this simpler, more user-friendly regime had been in the spec, we would have seen better adoption initially and also two decades later.

[0] of course one shouldn't assume that a totalitarian decision is a mistake, because it's just as likely that the decision-maker has priorities other than "support users"

[1] yes of course users have agency with respect to where XDG is implemented, but the simpler rule would also have given them agency with respect to whether it is implemented

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Re:Show HN: boxxy – Control where Linux programs put files, ... by account42 on Friday February 10, 2023 @08:25AM (#34739335)

And the variables should not be set if the user/distro wants the default (probably to force developers to handle the default case which is needed for compatibility anyway).

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