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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by nradov on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @02:52PM (#34713887)
I honestly see value in having scars, both the physical and mental varieties. Scars create resilience. We saw this during the recent pandemic. The upper-middle class "high achieving, high anxiety" types who had never faced any real danger or hardship were the most likely to panic and demand all sorts of ridiculous lockdowns and mandates, even though the vast majority of them were never at any significant risk. Whereas blue-collar workers and those accustomed to engaging in physically dangerous activities were generally much more sanguine and level-headed about the whole thing.

Some people just need to harden the f*** up and quit catastrophizing every little thing.

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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by SamoyedFurFluff on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @03:41PM (#34714721)
There is no evidence that scars are an inherently better tissue than non injured tissue. Torn ligaments, cut tendons, skin marring from burns, etc… these don’t bounce back 110% from their original.
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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by nradov on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @07:57PM (#34718210)
You missed the point there. Going though hardships and injuries (to an extent) builds mental resilience and the ability to accept risks without succumbing to irrational panic.
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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by SamoyedFurFluff on Thursday February 09, 2023 @08:08AM (#34723372)
Im not missing the point. The OP was making a wrong statement as evidence for wrong conclusions.
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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by wonderwonder on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @03:08PM (#34714146)
I don't think that's why the upper middle class demanded lock downs and blue collar didn't. I think the driver was financial stability. Upper middle class likely has a nice emergency fund and could do their job from home. Essentially a nice vacation. Blue collar workers got to choose between welfare and starving.
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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by nradov on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @03:13PM (#34714244)
The blue-collar construction workers and farmers that I know all though the lockdowns were stupid and ignored the rules. Financial stability or lack thereof was not the reason.
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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by wonderwonder on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @03:29PM (#34714504)
The blue collar workers reward for their scar induced mindset was to go back to work. White collar workers in large part were able to parlay the lock down into permanent work from home.

Perhaps it's not scars and just the ability to make lemonade when given lemons?

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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by rightbyte on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @06:40PM (#34717387)
What lockdown rule could farmers possibly be breaking more than programmers did? They live on a farm usually right?
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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by nradov on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @07:54PM (#34718180)
Lol have you ever been to a farm? Farmers go to social events, visit friends, etc just like anyone else. Most of them laughed at lockdown rules and kept living their lives just as before.
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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by Wyoming23 on Thursday February 09, 2023 @11:39AM (#34726697)
Which is why a million Americans died and tens of millions have long term neurological, lung or other organ damage from the disease.
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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by stormfather on Friday February 10, 2023 @11:58AM (#34742303)
Lockdowns or not, nobody could've avoided getting covid in the long term. It's just too contagious. The only way out is letting it run through the population and mutate. Flattening the curve might alleviate strain on the medical system but it also prolongs the time to benign mutations.
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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by baremetal on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @07:01PM (#34717632)
>The blue-collar construction workers and farmers that I know all thought the lockdowns were stupid and ignored the rules. Financial stability or lack thereof was not the reason.

I really don't want to wade into this tarpit but it was most certainly financial stability for those that I know.

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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by Damogran6 on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @04:17PM (#34715316)
Oddly, I think the population density will turn out to be a factor. Son was in Laramie for most of it and the early strains of Covid didn't do much there, I suspect because people were farther apart over unit of time.

Rather than being in a cube farm with the A/C recycling the air over and over.

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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by Apocryphon on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @03:02PM (#34714048)
Scars innately look different from healthy tissue. The lessons learned in response of trauma can likewise be maladaptive. Certainly people, especially those most self-isolated during the pandemic, could use more contact with the so-called "real world." But not everything formed as part of resilience is as it should be.
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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by tanseydavid on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @03:10PM (#34714179)
>> Some people just need to harden the f** up and quit catastrophizing every little thing.

You assume that this is simply a matter a making a decision and acting on it -- which for you may be true.

There are others that will find this difficult-to-impossible to achieve regardless of their intellectual desire to change. Their experience of anxiety may not be a result of "catastrophizing" or "being soft."

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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by wara23arish on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @03:50PM (#34714890)
Im not trying to be argumentative, but at that point is this behavior worth encouraging?

I guess whose fault is it but their own? We can all blame our upbringing and it definitely does affect us, but how else can you change the cycle without telling someone to snap out of it ?

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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by Apocryphon on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @06:29PM (#34717235)
Sometimes it takes tough love, sometimes it takes nurturing and understanding, sometimes it takes a blend of the two, sometimes it takes an entirely different track.
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