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Re:Tell HN: Don't Be Afraid of Yandex by anovikov on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @07:19AM (#34707074)
People are logically afraid that the way information is filtered by Yandex, their view of the world may become distorted and infected with Russian narrative. Let's say, try looking for anything about LGBT or the Orthodox church with Yandex, you will see stuff that looks coherent and is solely designed to bend public opinion onto the Kremlin side.

Yandex is Russia - OWNED, not just hosted there. That is, at least after the recent takeover and emigration of original founders, it is directly a state-sponsored propaganda tool fully in the hands on Kremlin, existing for the political purpose, not to make money.

It is same as using VK.com for social network for the reason that it has loads of pirated software, movies and porn (which is by the way true). You will slowly become just a walking product, and later a tool of Russian propaganda.

For this reason, i completely quit any sources of information in the Russian language, try to not use services with probable Russian association, and cut off all Russian contacts except those i have chances to pull out of there (and already succeeded with a few) - however toxic the model of thinking of these people is, i feel it's worth the risk because i am doing my part of weakening Russia by doing it.

Re:Tell HN: Don't Be Afraid of Yandex by Khelouiati on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @07:29AM (#34707152)
you give information without citing references, so you have to take your word for it, and what you say is practically false, Google also does the same thing. So it's up to you to choose your side. net neutrality has long since become obsolete
Re:Tell HN: Don't Be Afraid of Yandex by fortnum on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @07:47AM (#34707291)
These are good points. To be honest, I cannot fully follow the line of argument as presented by anovikov.

It seems a tad strange to criticise Yandex for filtering content according to local law and recommending Google over it, when the latter does the very same thing. Speaking of "narratives", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEvD1Wu9uQo

Re:Tell HN: Don't Be Afraid of Yandex by bediger4000 on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:34AM (#34707752)
The phrase "net neutrality" generally has a different meaning than you give it. You should rephrase so that people understand what you're writing means.
Re:Tell HN: Don't Be Afraid of Yandex by sourcecodeplz on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:07AM (#34707459)
Nobody is immune to propaganda, some are just more susceptible than others. But if you're not capable of personal agency you shouldn't be online anyway.
Re:Tell HN: Don't Be Afraid of Yandex by logicalmonster on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:45AM (#34707881)
Knowing a source's bias is a good thing.

Being extremely distrustful of a source's news when you're aware that there's a conflict with their bias is a mark of wisdom.

But proudly remaining in a state of willful ignorance and refusing to even try and understand the other side leads to hell on Earth and is not a good thing.