Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card...
by chrisandchris on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @08:04AM
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However, you can connect to Apple without a credit card using a "dummy".
That's a slightly different world than requiring a valid, working credit card. iPhones work without a working credit card.
Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card...
by amelius on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @08:28AM
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You're still paying for a device that is tethered by the vendor.
And if you use the device long enough, I'm sure there will be sufficient information for Apple to link the device back to you.
Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card...
by paulrpotts on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @10:31AM
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You need to sign in to an Apple account to get it going for the first time or to buy apps through the app store, or to do software updates. But you don't need to stay signed in or use the cloud services. Granted, it will pop up annoying notifications, but (at least so far) you're not required to use their servers. I have a second iPhone which I bought unlocked and don't have any phone service set up for. I bought it specifically to use as a camera. I can use it on my WiFi, not signed in, record video, AirDrop the files to a different machine, and never connect to iCloud. The day Apple starts doing what Microsoft is trying to do with Windows and remove the possibility of access without using the cloud will be the day I stop using iPhones.
Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card...
by amelius on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @10:53AM
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That's a very restricted usecase. What if you want to use your phone as an actual phone and install apps like WhatsApp, etc.?
Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card...
by paulrpotts on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @11:53AM
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Well, I never actually said I really approved of their "walled garden" app store. I will say that I use Signal, and once I've installed it I can sign out and continue to use it. And there's no need to stay signed in to use the cell network for either voice or data.
There should be a law against this tethering of devices by the vendor when you buy a product as opposed to a service.