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Re:The Hunt for the Death Valley Germans by genewitch on Monday February 06, 2023 @08:31PM (#34687301)
>Recognize when you're in the shit, stop, and reassess as calmly as possible. This has got to be the most frequently recurring pattern I see in accident reports and debriefings.

Yep, Admiral Cloudberg's analysis of plane crashes has this as a recurring theme, practically every time there isn't a mechanical failure, the crash is "controlled flight into terrain".

* https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com

Re:The Hunt for the Death Valley Germans by bombcar on Monday February 06, 2023 @11:26PM (#34688760)
Yeah - and like this case the critical moment of error was minutes or hours before the “obvious” issue. Leaving paved roads in an area you know nothing about and are unprepared for is a bad idea.
Re:The Hunt for the Death Valley Germans by ghaff on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @10:49AM (#34694306)
The proximate issue was almost certainly that they were running late and, not being familiar with the US West, didn't realize that just because there was a "road" on the map, didn't mean that there was a shortcut that a passenger vehicle could go on.