A morning commute from the Marina District to the Financial District, which is an extremely generous analog to "traveling from the outer boroughs" would take more than 30 minutes because... you have to take a bus backwards for 3 stops just to get to a subway entrance.

But if you leave at 8:30 thinking that you have a 30 minute ride, traffic backs up so badly that taking a bus 25 stops clean across the city to Market and Church, so you can then take a subway is the recommended option, turning it into a 43 minute ordeal.

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In no reality would you ever need to ride 25 stops to get to a subway station from an outer borough in NYC.

That's only true if your in the closest neighborhoods of the Brooklyn or Queens to Manhattan. Jamaica to NYC is so long, and tons of Brooklyn doesn't have subway coverage.

Midtown to wall st is 30 minutes of subway riding

> A morning commute from the Marina District to the Financial District,

You’re overcomplicating the commute. Take the 132 Southbound, about 15 mins during morning rush hour.

My guess, though, is you’re not really complaining about a specific commute as much as the paucity of rail in SF, and other faster commute options than bus. Relatively crummy public transport in SF is a valid gripe.

But in larger context, it seems you’re just not happy in/with SF. Could also be you’re just not happy.

If you’re looking to improve your experience, you might do well to consider that SF probably won’t be “fixed” inside our lifetimes.

I don't live in the affected parts of the city but it sounds like you might - does the new Central line, from Chinatown Rose-Pak to Sunnydale, meaningfully affect transit along that corridor?

> does the new Central line, from Chinatown Rose-Pak to Sunnydale, meaningfully affect transit along that corridor?

I haven't had the opportunity to see let alone take that new line. I'll have to check it out.

That said, the route Marina to FiDi (mentioned in GGP) is at a right angle and about half a mile south of the Chinatown Rose-Pak station.

No.

  you have to take a bus backwards for 3 stops just to get to a subway entrance

So don't take the subway? I don't know where you're going to or from, but bussing it to Church to get to the Financial District sounds like the most awkward way to accomplish your commute.

What? No.