News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Meta Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Results by endisneigh on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @04:54PM (#34618445)
No one could have predicted they’d buy back such a ridiculous amount of their own stock.
Re:Meta Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Results by fshbbdssbbgdd on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @05:27PM (#34618885)
Really? Meta bought back less in 2022 than they did in 2021.
Re:Meta Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Results by endisneigh on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @05:45PM (#34619119)
Exactly.
Re:Meta Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Results by zenmaster10665 on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @06:13PM (#34619493)
Huh? I think you are confused.

People forget that stock buybacks also created a pool of equity for employee compensation, it isn't just about returning capital tax effectively.

Re:Meta Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Results by endisneigh on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @06:17PM (#34619552)
The point is that there was no way to predict the level of stock buy backs announced.
Re:Meta Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Results by Dylan16807 on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @06:29PM (#34619695)
You said there way no way to predict they could buy back so much.

But basing your expectations on 2021 would have done exactly that. So that argument is wrong.

If your real/amended argument is "no way to predict the level", as in predicting the exact amount, that's a much weaker argument that has barely any ramifications for investing. The specific amount is generally much less important than going over/under some threshold.

Re:Meta Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Results by endisneigh on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @08:03PM (#34620593)
If it was so obvious large quantities of the stock would’ve been purchased even the price was depressed. Were there any notable investors purchasing large quantities in expectation of this?
Re:Meta Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Results by Dylan16807 on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:52PM (#34621425)
I didn't mean to imply it was obviously correct.

But it was obviously a plausible outcome.

Predicting it only took very simple and reasonable logic. "I bet the number stays the same."

A sports analogy: There's a game tomorrow where one team has 30% odds of winning. If someone bets on that team, nobody says "no one could have predicted that". It's obvious that it could happen, and it's plausible that it could happen. Tons of people predicted it.

And large quantities of the stock were purchased. There's tons of trading happening every day.

It's not like the people that expected a large buyback were acting in a vacuum. Stock value follows the average. To push the sports analogy, the team stock would still be going down even though many people are betting on them.

Re:Meta Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Results by BbzzbB on Thursday February 02, 2023 @01:55AM (#34623094)
They barely bought more than last Q (500M more) and 3 times less than Q4-21. Nothing extraordinary with this buyback, they even have a few B authorized remaining.

The only surprise with the buyback streak since last year is how poorly executed it was. They dumped $45B ahead of anouncing a decrease in DAU, then trickled after it tanked the stock.

Re:Meta Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Results by zenmaster10665 on Thursday February 02, 2023 @02:27AM (#34623328)
It isnt meant to support the stock, it is a compensation pool.
Re:Meta Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Results by BbzzbB on Thursday February 02, 2023 @11:17AM (#34628705)
Neither, it's way higher then SBC and outstanding shares are decreasing.

It's cash returned to shareholders.

Re:Meta Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Results by RC_ITR on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @08:25PM (#34620785)
Stocks are priced on future events
Re:Meta Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Results by kgwgk on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @05:47PM (#34619138)
$7bn in Q4 is just like the $21bn in the three previous quarters - when the stock was going down - and doesn’t seem so unpredictable.
Re:Meta Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Results by sicp-enjoyer on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @08:47PM (#34620964)
You could see they had free cash flow.
Re:Meta Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Results by mancerayder on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:59PM (#34621481)
Is that a better use of capital than investments to grow the business?