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Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by yamtaddle on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @02:16PM (#34600307)
Old narrow-street, maybe an alley in the back, grid-layout suburbs with the odd block corner zoned commercial and all-neighborhood-streets routes to all kinds of businesses and parks and libraries and such are a whole different beast from the twisty-road car-dependent mazes of post-70s suburbia. And they're so much damn nicer. Too bad no-one builds them anymore.
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Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by crooked-v on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @02:38PM (#34600668)
Most cities have zoning that doesn't allow that kind of thing.
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Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by twiddling on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @02:35PM (#34600613)
problem isn't zoning but design regulations. A lot of street design is dictated by being able to fire engine equipment in and turned around. Hence no new alleys are being built.
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Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by yamtaddle on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @02:46PM (#34600797)
I don't even mean that narrow. Just not, like, 4ish cars wide. More like 3 or 2.5 (if one-way).
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Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by ultrarunner on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @03:12PM (#34601206)
The "residential" road that I live on is (and most in the area are) 45 ft wide, with 2.5' sidewalks. The Hummer H1 is an incredible 7.2 feet wide, meaning you could fit six full-size hummers side-by-side down this road. Add in the mandatory front 30ft setback and you have a sight line that is around 110 feet wide.

People are expected to go up to 30 mph here. They don't.

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Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by alistairSH on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @03:28PM (#34601462)
We could build fire equipment to fit narrower streets.
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Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by zip1234 on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @06:53PM (#34604146)
There already are fire trucks for that: https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/article/Meet-Kiri-the-tiny...
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Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by alistairSH on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @07:05PM (#34604252)
Yeah, just not used in the US. All we have is giant custom things that cost a fortune.
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Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by c0nsumer on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @05:45PM (#34603432)
We moved from the latter to the former about a year ago, and it's SO MUCH BETTER. The low traffic residential grid roads make great walking and cycling (for quite long distances) and the closer proximity to neighbors seems to result in friendlier people. I'm amazed at what a different feeling it is compared to our old McMansion/Condo stuff where people kept to their boxes and didn't seem to know how to politely interact.
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