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Re:UK expected to be only major economy to shrink in 2023 – IMF by manuelabeledo on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @10:02AM (#34595867)
UK fertility rate is barely higher than Germany, and the population pyramid looks significantly worse than China.
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Re:UK expected to be only major economy to shrink in 2023 – IMF by throwaway6734 on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @10:07AM (#34595928)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_Kingd...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China

Germany's population pyramid is significantly more top heavy as is China's. Not to mention, the UK is much better at assimilating immigrants than Germany and especially China.

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Re:UK expected to be only major economy to shrink in 2023 – IMF by jacooper on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @10:52AM (#34596670)
> the UK is much better at assimilating immigrants than Germany and especially China.

Doubt there will be any immigrants left, after crazy stuff like sending immigrants to Rwanda and attack them publicly for any and every failure of the economy.

Also from a quick read, immigration has already filled the fertility gap in Germany and after the Ukraine war it's giving a surplus too.

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Re:UK expected to be only major economy to shrink in 2023 – IMF by manuelabeledo on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @11:18AM (#34597123)
> Germany's population pyramid is significantly more top heavy as is China's.

I must be looking at a different graph, because the UK looks like it clearly has less people under 10, than over 60, which does not happen in China.

> Not to mention, the UK is much better at assimilating immigrants than Germany and especially China.

That is debatable.

UK immigration numbers are quite similar to Germany, with 7.7% of non EU immigrants, vs 7.8% [0]. This percentage is lower than other countries like Spain or Greece. Crime rates among immigrants in the UK seem to be similar to those in other countries, as are poverty rates.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_immigration_to_the_Unit...

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Re:UK expected to be only major economy to shrink in 2023 – IMF by throwaway6734 on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @11:33AM (#34597346)
>I must be looking at a different graph, because the UK looks like it clearly has less people under 10, than over 60, which does not happen in China.

The important bit is China's massive spike between 30 & 57. What's the plan for the next 30 years?

It's not just about raw numbers, but how well those immigrants integrate into the target country

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Re:UK expected to be only major economy to shrink in 2023 – IMF by manuelabeledo on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @11:52AM (#34597590)
> The important bit is China's massive spike between 30 & 57. What's the plan for the next 30 years?

I don't know, but again, given the fertility rate in the UK, and the recent clamp on immigration, I don't see how they could fare better.

> It's not just about raw numbers, but how well those immigrants integrate into the target country

Right, but you have not been able to justify either. If there are no metrics on how "well" immigrants integrate, then the point is moot.

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