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Re:Fish (shell) porting to Rust from C++ by lamontcg on Monday January 30, 2023 @10:14PM (#34590399)
Yeah there was nowhere near as much of this tribalistic nonsense in the 90s. The millennial affinity to identity and tribalism, in general, is quite weird.
Re:Fish (shell) porting to Rust from C++ by djur on Monday January 30, 2023 @10:26PM (#34590485)
If there is a trend toward identity and tribalism, it would be a pretty natural response to the midcentury trend toward isolated nuclear families and hyper-individualism. My recollection was that culture in the '90s was actually quite obsessed with "tribes" and identity as a direct reaction to the dog-eat-dog '80s.
Re:Fish (shell) porting to Rust from C++ by heavyset_go on Monday January 30, 2023 @11:56PM (#34591351)
I see it as more of a deliberate community building choice, one that we've seen for decades and one that's more popular now than ever, I'd argue, and not some "millennial" propensity towards tribalism.

Every brand/product/service/etc is trying to create communities around themselves, with fan clubs, VIP memberships, social media groups, email lists, Zoom/in-person conferences/webinars, etc.

It used to be you had to have a ton of reach and value to pull those off before the internet, now every project has marketing and social media people doing the same thing online.

Re:Fish (shell) porting to Rust from C++ by lostdog on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @12:31AM (#34591561)
Really? I know it was mostly 2000s, but a lot of Paul Graham's writing was about how great Lisp is [1]. It also sounds like the C versus C++ arguments were wild too if Linus is still riled up about it.

[1] http://www.paulgraham.com/iflisp.html

Re:Fish (shell) porting to Rust from C++ by lamontcg on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @04:22PM (#34602368)
I used to program Perl and C on various *nix systems in the 90s. I wasn't a Perlist or C-ist or Unix-ista. I didn't need to hate Macs and Windows and C++ as part of my identity.
Re:Fish (shell) porting to Rust from C++ by pjmlp on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @02:19AM (#34592274)
There was, if you had access to Usenet.

Delphi versus VB, VB vs C++, Pascal vs C, C vs C++...

Re:Fish (shell) porting to Rust from C++ by howinteresting on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @12:06PM (#34597866)
Tribalism is pretty clearly biologically wired into our species.