I always hated the arguments you're replying to. As if owning electronics, gadgets, or other plastic trinkets is akin to living a life where you don't have to constantly worry about housing, healthcare, retirement, or education and every little thing that can cause your path to come crashing down (getting in a car crash could potentially mean losing your job, losing your job equating to losing health insurance, etc).

I just have to assume people espousing things are divorced from reality, because how else can you equate a poor person owning a microwave to societal success?