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Re:Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills by xeromal on Sunday January 29, 2023 @12:37PM (#34570462)
In the US, the military is actually used for combat operations so the risk of being injured or killed is higher than being "a shop owner, or carpenter or doctor or whatever". The majority aren't but you're still signing up for it when you join so you are given an amount of elevated respect. It's not something you sign up for willie nillie. You're obligated to serve for at least a tour (4 years I believe) and in those 4 years, you've lost every bit of free-will. It's a sacrifice that I wasn't willing to make so kudos to those who do.
Re:Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills by neoromantique on Sunday January 29, 2023 @12:49PM (#34570609)
As almost everywhere in the world.

Enrolling into military is a choice and you know risks beforehand, there’s nothing about that choice that deserves worship-like cult status military has in US.

Re:Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills by sicp-enjoyer on Sunday January 29, 2023 @03:52PM (#34572614)
And why do you think they take those risks? Do you think they would if people treated it like a job at mcdonalds? Would their families support them in being away for so long for 30k/year?
Re:Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills by quesera on Sunday January 29, 2023 @03:56PM (#34572657)
Some of them absolutely would, yes.

But psychologically, the drive to be a part of something important is very strong, especially in young men.

The military has a rich mythology that plays into, and perpetuates, this.

This is not bad or unhealthy! But it is also not inherently good. There are other groups which use the same tactics to recruit people for bad services. It very very much depends.

Re:Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills by sicp-enjoyer on Sunday January 29, 2023 @08:28PM (#34574793)
I completely agree, but I think that "rich mythology" you refer to is fueled by the public also believing in it to a great extent.
Re:Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills by quesera on Sunday January 29, 2023 @09:44PM (#34575270)
For certain. It's a symbiotic relationship.

But like any source of low-cost energy, some of it is diverted into unproductive things!

Re:Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills by Aeolun on Sunday January 29, 2023 @12:50PM (#34570621)
> In the US, the military is actually used for combat operations

This is true for most forces. All the US allies working in Iraq/Iran weren’t robots.

Re:Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills by throw_away1525 on Sunday January 29, 2023 @12:57PM (#34570701)
murdering brown people for fun and profit isn't something i'm willing to give kudos for but uh you do you I guess