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Re:Solar panels on cars make no sense by moffkalast on Sunday January 29, 2023 @11:11AM (#34569375)
It would make more sense to sell an optional add-on that's just a foldable set of panels that fits perfectly in the boot or frunk, one that you can then extend to way beyond the car's surface area, align to the right angle and plug in. They even make those light flexible ones now.

The main use case for this would be something like driving an EV across a desert or some backcountry well outside civilization I guess, otherwise it's probably easier to just find an electric socket somewhere.

Re:Solar panels on cars make no sense by mikestew on Sunday January 29, 2023 @11:16AM (#34569457)
It’s such an impractical option, starting with incredibly long charge times, that even for backcountry there would be better and more reliable options. For one, it won’t work in the woods because no sun. So the market consists of those crossing a remote desert. Those six people won’t even cover the cost of tooling.

I mean, the math isn’t hard. 200W out of a panel (at best), multiple by 5 hours to get a kilowatt hour. How many of those do you need to get back to civilization? Our Leaf gets 4 miles per kWh. The hypothetical desert overland vehicle probably gets half that.

You’re better off bring extra water and walking back for help if it comes to it.

Re:Solar panels on cars make no sense by moffkalast on Sunday January 29, 2023 @11:18AM (#34569480)
Fair enough, might as well chop some wood and burn it in a generator lol.
Re:Solar panels on cars make no sense by rhino369 on Sunday January 29, 2023 @12:20PM (#34570281)
Don't give GM any ideas. The Tri-Volt coming soon.
Re:Solar panels on cars make no sense by moffkalast on Sunday January 29, 2023 @05:33PM (#34573480)
Well they already made gas turbine engines back in the day, wouldn't be much of a stretch jumping to a steam turbine haha.
Re:Solar panels on cars make no sense by egberts1 on Sunday January 29, 2023 @02:05PM (#34571495)
Or put a banana peel into the Mr. Fusion Home Energy Reactor.
Re:Solar panels on cars make no sense by Retric on Sunday January 29, 2023 @01:03PM (#34570790)
Where are you getting that 200W from when cheap 450W solar panels are common?

Assuming say 60% of a 2m * 4m vehicle + some side panels @ 22% efficiency. You might get 6 hours * 220w/m2 * 2 * 4 * 60% = 6.3kWh that’s 25 miles at highway speeds and a fair bit more when your doing the equivalent of hypermiling.

I don’t see anyone trying to overland an EV but people do occasionally mess up and run out of gas on roads in the middle of nowhere.

Re:Solar panels on cars make no sense by mikestew on Sunday January 29, 2023 @02:06PM (#34571506)
Where are you getting that 200W from

It is my estimate of what will fit on a passenger car. I could only squeeze 410W on the roof of a 26’ RV. I doubt your 450W panel is going to fit even on something like a Land Cruiser.

And “side panels”? Ignoring the impracticality and inefficiency, no one with taste will be driving that. :-)

Besides, if you run out of juice, and if AAA will come get me in the Yukon 180 miles from Whitehorse (flat tire on the bike I couldn't fix), meaning 180 miles from anywhere, then they'll come charge your car anywhere in Wyoming. A AAA card is lot cheaper and more practical silly solar panels.

Re:Solar panels on cars make no sense by Retric on Sunday January 29, 2023 @05:03PM (#34573256)
That must have looked tiny on your RV. I know people with a 3kw system (edit: 2940W ignoring losses) on a 28’ RV and they had an AC unit blocking some space. Now they don’t actually see that much power because the roof is a flat surface, but it’s enough he never carried through installing solar on the side panels like the initial plan was.

Of note, flexible panels are easy to install but have terrible power output per square meter.

Re:Solar panels on cars make no sense by rightbyte on Sunday January 29, 2023 @03:07PM (#34572130)
You get about 113 kWh per m2 solar panel per year where I live.

For 8m2 that's 911 kWh. So at an average 2.5 kWh per day.

I guess 6.3 kWh a summer day is not unrealistic.

(I thought your number was way too high but it seems to check out ...)

Re:Solar panels on cars make no sense by powerbroker on Sunday January 29, 2023 @11:54AM (#34569968)
And in 5% of the parking lots, where there is 0 theft going on, I'll be sure and use it.