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Re:The Science of Sword-Swallowing by bb88 on Friday January 27, 2023 @01:47PM (#34550017)
> (Neon tubes, by the way, have an added risk of shattering inside the throat, with seriously disabling and sometimes fatal effects.)

I was lucky enough in my life to see someone do exactly this -- he even talked about how deadly it was before he did it. Though for his performance, he used a metal cage around the neon tube. It prevented the esophagus from breaking it, but still allowed the light to escape out.

He opened up his shirt and allowed for 30 seconds everyone to see the light emanating out of his chest cavity. It was a truly remarkable experience.

Re:The Science of Sword-Swallowing by Someone on Friday January 27, 2023 @02:19PM (#34550461)
> he even talked about how deadly it was before he did it

I would not immediately believe a performer saying that. Saying something is extremely dangerous can be part of the performance.

In this case the tube may not have been made of glass, or there might have been a layer of plastic between the glass and the metal cage.

That wouldn’t make it zero risk, but certainly would have decreased the risk.

Re:The Science of Sword-Swallowing by adrian_b on Friday January 27, 2023 @02:49PM (#34550839)
The tube must have been made of glass, otherwise it could not keep the air out of the low-pressure interior.

However, you are right that a minimal precaution would be to wrap the tube in a transparent plastic film, preferably glued to the glass, in order to contain any broken shards.

Re:The Science of Sword-Swallowing by stavros on Friday January 27, 2023 @03:28PM (#34551371)
It may not have been a neon tube, it may have been a plexiglass tube with LED lights and a diffuser. How can you tell from inside an esophagus?
Re:The Science of Sword-Swallowing by 867-5309 on Friday January 27, 2023 @04:17PM (#34551992)
pretty sure half the trick is a before-and-after experience
Re:The Science of Sword-Swallowing by 867-5309 on Friday January 27, 2023 @04:19PM (#34552014)
actually pissing my pants at the thought of some guy walking onto the stage, revealing his glowing torso, then walking off again
Re:The Science of Sword-Swallowing by bb88 on Friday January 27, 2023 @05:30PM (#34552760)
I recall it looking bright like a neon tube with the glow that neon tubes emit -- also with heavy duty cable going into the neon tube. He swallows the sword on stage so everyone sees the sword go in and out.

I also had no doubt to believe it wasn't a glass neon tube.

Re:The Science of Sword-Swallowing by stavros on Friday January 27, 2023 @05:45PM (#34552870)
Sorry, I meant in the hypothetical case where someone swallows a "neon" tube without any shielding. The metal cage in your case tells me that it was probably legitimate.

Though, what happened to the other end of the wire?

Re:The Science of Sword-Swallowing by bb88 on Friday January 27, 2023 @10:03PM (#34554697)
It was plugged into the wall through I'm guessing a high voltage neon transformer.

I have no idea if the cage was grounded or not. I assume it wasn't, which should have been fine if the connection to the tube was outside of his mouth.

Re:The Science of Sword-Swallowing by Waterluvian on Friday January 27, 2023 @03:34PM (#34551461)
There’s a thing Penn and Teller talk about (in the nail gun routine) about how it is immoral for a trick to have any real danger as it makes the audience complicit in risk. This resonates with me considerably.

But then you move further from magic and closer to acrobatics and things like tightrope acts without nets have real danger.

Re:The Science of Sword-Swallowing by bb88 on Friday January 27, 2023 @05:26PM (#34552718)
Juggling, circus acts, and heck even air shows can be dangerous for the performers. I've seen an air show performer die during his act a few years ago when he crashed into the ground.

Even the NFL has a good amount of danger during every game -- and people get injured.

But spectators have died during Airshows [0] and during, say, the Indy 500 [1].

[0]: https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/air-show-acciden...

[1]: https://www.sportscasting.com/indianapolis-500-tragedy-rarel...

Re:The Science of Sword-Swallowing by Oxidation on Friday January 27, 2023 @06:51PM (#34553411)
Airshows have also killed people not spectating, but just driving nearby when the plane crashed into a main road: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Shoreham_Airshow_crash
Re:The Science of Sword-Swallowing by AndrewOMartin on Saturday January 28, 2023 @07:41AM (#34557111)
When I saw Penn & Teller live in the same show they did the routine you describe, but also a fire eating routine about how some stunts simply do hurt, and can be dangerous to both learn and perform. Neither break the "no permanent damage" rule but you are left with two seemingly contradictory arguments.

Properly aligned you can fit the two ideas together, but I think they kind of personal mental arranging of ideas is exactly what they want to leave you with.

Re:The Science of Sword-Swallowing by hbn on Friday January 27, 2023 @02:53PM (#34550885)
That pull quote and first sentence made me think you saw a neon tube shatter inside a performer
Re:The Science of Sword-Swallowing by 867-5309 on Friday January 27, 2023 @04:13PM (#34551943)
it disappointed me too