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Re:Apple’s Mac security is so good, it’s sending used M1 Mac... by chongli on Friday January 27, 2023 @10:03AM (#34546794)
Isn't this just a case of "buyer beware" for the recycler? If the machines haven't been properly erased so that they can have ownership transferred then the recyclers should refuse to accept them.

On the other hand, if the original owners want the machines actually destroyed and not resold then I don't see the problem here.

Re:Apple’s Mac security is so good, it’s sending used M1 Mac... by judge2020 on Friday January 27, 2023 @10:08AM (#34546858)
On the third hand, they're a recycler. It's unfortunate these Macs can't be reused, but I imagine the Recycler got these for free or bought them and paid scrap metal prices, not "we'll resell this" prices.
Re:Apple’s Mac security is so good, it’s sending used M1 Mac... by psychphysic on Friday January 27, 2023 @10:30AM (#34547093)
I disagree.

I think apple should run a refurb but they wouldn't as that would depress their retail price.

The devices are recycled just for parts. Even the motherboard will have parts removed and reused.

It's a lot more work than flipping the laptop on eBay.

Re:Apple’s Mac security is so good, it’s sending used M1 Mac... by robertoandred on Friday January 27, 2023 @11:23AM (#34547779)
Apple's sold refurbished products for decades.
Re:Apple’s Mac security is so good, it’s sending used M1 Mac... by psychphysic on Friday January 27, 2023 @03:55PM (#34551729)
I'm totally wrong.

Like the most wrong I've ever been.

Well once I made a marmite pizza, other than that I've never been so wrong in my life

Re:Apple’s Mac security is so good, it’s sending used M1 Mac... by sgerenser on Friday January 27, 2023 @07:04PM (#34553522)
Indeed. Probably almost half of the Macs I’ve bought over the past couple decades have been refurbished.
Re:Apple’s Mac security is so good, it’s sending used M1 Mac... by mikestew on Friday January 27, 2023 @12:46PM (#34549204)
I think apple should run a refurb but they wouldn't as that would depress their retail price.

I think people should at least make a good faith effort to look this shit up before gettin' all snarky:

https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished

Re:Apple’s Mac security is so good, it’s sending used M1 Mac... by psychphysic on Friday January 27, 2023 @03:54PM (#34551719)
Yikes I was totally wrong.
Re:Apple’s Mac security is so good, it’s sending used M1 Mac... by mikestew on Friday January 27, 2023 @07:44PM (#34553815)
Like I’ve never made a mistake, have an upvote. :-)
Re:Apple’s Mac security is so good, it’s sending used M1 Mac... by TomSwirly on Friday January 27, 2023 @12:03PM (#34548452)
> It's unfortunate

It's not just "unfortunate": our wildly consumptive and wasteful nature is a crime against future generations.

It's not just that our consumption and waste production are at record levels, to the point that we have damaged our climate!, but that they continue to increase at exponential rates.

Re:Apple’s Mac security is so good, it’s sending used M1 Mac... by widowlark on Friday January 27, 2023 @01:35PM (#34549860)
This is incredibly well said, thank you.

All of this central control assumes the central control will still be there in the future. Someday, apple will cease to exist, and when it does, there will be millions of unverified bricks that used to be computers.